I'm not aware of such restrictions on T13 changing technical information in the SATA material. At least none written on paper that I can find.
If there is such a condition, please indicate the document where that condition is stipulated.
This does not seem to be the case, as we did incorporate new material into ATA-7 volume 3 for ATAPI devices on Serial ATA interfaces. Ref E03132r2.
So far the effort has been cooperative between the SATA working group and T13 and seems to be working well. T13 is not a good place to develop new technology, but it is a good place to maintain and document a technology, with maintenance being an active thing.
I do not believe that SATA working group "approval" is required for anything T13 does. However a cooperating relationship exists and that's a good thing.
If this is not the case, I'd like to have that spelled out.
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There is no 'serial atapi' proposal. I merely recorded the fact that questions about ATAPI via the Serial ATA interface are starting to surface more frequently on the reflector and elsewhere.
T13 has a copyright release from the SATA working group, but is not 'free' to change technical content, but is allowed to consider clarifications.
The T13 liason to the SATA working group (Dan Colgrove) does ask the SATA working group for approval on some items, and the T13 members who are also SATA working group members have feedback in both groups.
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I haven't looked at the meeting minutes to see what discussions may or may not have occurred (the minutes are usually just general anyway), but just curious:
If there is a Serial ATAPI proposal (and SATA-2 would fall into this question as well) and is being considered for inclusion in ATAPI-8, I will ask the same question I asked before we decided to include SATA 1.0.
Will T13 be allowed to add, delete or modify everything in this area without first getting approval from the Serail ATA committee? Although this was answered "yes" for SATA 1.0, I don't believe (my opinion) that it's true.
my $0.02,
Gary Laatsch [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Here is a list of possible subjects for ATA/ATAPI-8 to consider.
These are mostly gleaned from the outstanding issues list and frommade at this week's October 2003 plenary meeting.submit
These are not necessarily for discussion at this time. I am just 'priming the pump' for others to add other suggestions to the list for December when weetc.)a proposal for an ATA/ATAPI-8 project. ----------------------------- * Serial ATA - external interface (connectors, electrical, etc.) - serial ATAPI - LED - various issues involving bridges e03132r1 - ATAPI DMA Direction issues Proposal - incorporation of SATA 1.0a errata - incorporation of SATA-2 new features (native command queuing,?
* (e03138r0) Enterprise Extensions Smart Accessed (EESA)
* (e02126r1) Write Wrong Proposal
* ISO standardization
* and some large questions to consider: - should support for PIO be dropped ? - should ATA/ATAPI-8 be the final standard to include parallel ATA- redo command volume to be interface-agnostic ? - redo command volume to be FIS-based ?
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