On Oct 10, 2016, at 12:36 PM, Konstantin Khomoutov 
<[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> On Mon, 10 Oct 2016 14:49:55 -0300
> Richie Adler <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> [...]
>> Fossil is a perfect example of an excuse that has to die. *Nobody*
>> has the excuse that version control is costly or complicated anymore.
>> You don't even need to create an account in Github.
> 
> So, do you really think one has to create a Github account to use Git?

Yes, I do, because git is nearly unusable without github.com or similar, 
whereas /usr/bin/fossil is perfectly usable as-is. :)

I’m only joking^Wserious. :)

> github.com is to Git what
> chiselapp.com is to Fossil -- a hosting solution (one of many, in case
> of Git).

github.com is far more than a hosting service.  It provides a whole pile of 
things that don’t exist in /usr/bin/git or /usr/libexec/git-core/*:

  https://github.com/features

And yes, I already know that not all of those things are in Fossil or 
ChiselApp, but many of them are, and many of the things you only get in Github 
Enterprise *are* in stock Fossil.

>> You can keep it all in house and the configuration couldn't be
>> easier...
> 
> You can "keep it all in house" using any contemporary VCS.

But you can’t keep Github in house without buying Github Enterprise, at 
$21/user/month, minimum 10 users, so $2,520 per year entry cost.

If you want any of the features common to Github/GHE and Fossil, and you want 
to host it privately, you’re looking at GHE or one of its complicated 
competitors. For example, here’s GitLab’s setup guide for CentOS:

  https://about.gitlab.com/downloads/#centos7

Compare Fossil: unpack, make && sudo make install.

No matter how you slice it, Git is more complex than Fossil, compared 
feature-for-feature.  Git only has advantages where it has a feature that you 
need that is missing in Fossil.  Many of us don’t need the extras Git provides, 
like subrepositories, rebase, etc.
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