If these files started off as XML or structured files, and the others didn't, there could definitely be some extra cruft in there. You probably checked this already, but are these files still structured?

I haven't noticed any significant size difference in PDFs from XML from FM11 to FM12. I just did a quick test of a single page .. when saved to PDF from FM11 it's 63KB and from FM12 it's 69 KB .. over 100 pages that might be a difference of 60KB. Not a big difference from my perspective.

Doing a similar test with an unstructured file, the FM11 PDF is 34 KB and the FM12 PDF is 40KB.

The structured/XML sourced file actually has less content than the unstructured file, and the resulting PDF is larger .. so it's possible that your PDFs that come from XML may be larger. And there does seem to be an increase in size (from both structured and unstructured) in PDFs from FM11 to FM12.

You might check to see if your files are still structured .. removing the structure (if that's the intent) might reduce the file size. Also, since these files came through a different path, they may have additional content/graphics/?? on reference pages which could increase the file size.


On 2/17/15 9:50 AM, Lin Sims wrote:
After a bit of testing, the increase seems to be linked to 3 files that were created using DITAFMx from a batch of xml files that were generated by script from an Excel workbook. Interestingly, these files have always been part of the document (and inserted in the same way), so I'm not sure why there's a sudden file size increase.

I'll be regenerating these files again soon, so I'll see if the increase continues. It's still odd.

On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 12:39 PM, David Spreadbury <dspre...@yahoo.com <mailto:dspre...@yahoo.com>> wrote:

    I just tested your issue opening a 12 page text only structured
    FM7.2 file and saving it as FM12.
    Did nothing more than open the FM7.2 in FM12 and then save it as a
    FM12 document.
    Printed FM12 version using Acro XI Adobe PDF driver.
    Distilled postscript to PDF.
    FM7.2 file size=358KB Acro 8 PDF=207KB
    FM12 file size=8630KB Acro XI PDF=278KB
    This was one chapter of a 30+ chapter book.
    The Acro8 PDF of the book is 3025KB.
    I can open and update all the chapters, but with only 70KB
    increase in one chapter, I would expect a slight increase in the
    book, but nothing like you are experiencing.


    On Tuesday, February 17, 2015 11:18 AM, Lin Sims
    <ljsims...@gmail.com <mailto:ljsims...@gmail.com>> wrote:

    The PDF has to be posted as a shared review on a cloud web storage
    site. There's a size limit to what you can upload. My company is
    using corporate GMAIL and I have a 30Gb limit on storage, and for
    now I have to attach a shared review enabled PDF to an email to
    allow reviewers to join the review*. Admittedly, this one file
    isn't going to break either of those limits, but it's not
    something I can keep doing for a long period of time. Plus the
    sudden increase in size worries me. If there's a problem with the
    files, I need to find it before things get hosed (and yes, I did
    run all the files through a MIF wash).

    *I will be testing setting up a shared review by storing the
    shared review PDF on the cloud drive and sending a link instead,
    but until I do, I know this works.

    On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 12:04 PM, Fred Ridder <docu...@hotmail.com
    <mailto:docu...@hotmail.com>> wrote:

        Not to minimize your question, but...

        With the cost of computer storage running about $0.10 per
        gigabyte for hard disk or $0.50 per gigabyte for SSD, I'm not
        sure it's worthwhile worrying about 10 MB more or less. That's
        less than 1/2 cent's worth of storage space. Unless you know
        your documents are going to be posted on a website where a
        significant number of users do not have anything resembling
        broadband access, spending more than a few seconds worrying
        about 10 MB in file size does not yield a good return on

        -Fred Ridder

        Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2015 11:26:35 -0500
        Subject: FM12: PDF file size exploding
        From: ljsims...@gmail.com <mailto:ljsims...@gmail.com>
        To: framers@lists.frameusers.com

        Has anyone had an issue with the size of a generated PDF
        increasing dramatically after moving a book from FM10 to FM12
        (or any earlier version of FM to FM12)?

        I've got a book that's gone from under 3M to over 12M, and
        that's AFTER running the Save as Reduced Size.

        Is this a bug, have I not set something up in either FM12 or
        Acrobat 10 correctly, or is there a solution?


-- Lin Sims

-- Lin Sims



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