I'm not familiar with versions of FM help prior to vers. 7, which I am using. That, I can agree wholeheartedly, sucks.
As a self-taught FM user, it takes hours, literally hours to figure out some new operation or feature in Framemaker. Operations/features, I might add, that were pretty much intuitive in Pagemaker or Quark. If you're going to have a user-hostile interface, at least have some decent documentation. Most of the hours I spend trying to figure things out are spent searching forums on the Web. However, doing decent documentation costs money. Adobe obviously has saved a lot of money here. I feel as if, if I'm ever going to reach any level of proficiency with this program, it's going to mean going to a training class. Now, that's great for independent trainers, not so great for me, since I'll have to pay for something that IMHO shouldn't be needed. You should perhaps need training to be a "power user" ... not to just figure out how to perform common operations. ljk _______________________________________________ Deja Moo: The feeling that you've heard this bull before. Daniel Emory <danemory7224 at sbcglobal.net> Sent by: framers-bounces+laura_j_kirk=bd.com at lists.frameusers.com 05/18/2006 02:16 PM To Framers List <framers at FrameUsers.com> cc Subject RE: Numbering Systems for Technical Service Manuals --- Anne Robotti <arobotti at journalregister.com> wrote: > Is this a private email from Linda that you posted > to the list? How > completely rude. ============================= My mistake, and I apologize to Linda. The Framer's list, unlike some others, identifies the sender's name, not the list's name as the sender. My default email setup only identifies the sender in the From line, thus, when I hit reply, only the sender's name appears in the To line. Since the thread originated on the Framers list, I presumptively added the list name on the cc line in my reply. I usually check first to see if that is proper, but this time I failed to do so. I'll be more careful in the future. My bad. Nevertheless, this issue about numbering of titled headings, tables and graphics seems to come up frequently. It's a valid issue, and it deserves more discussion on the list. And by the way, I do not apologize for describing most on-line help as shovelware. If that is offensive to some, so be it. The FrameMaker on-line help in versions 4 and earlier was far superior to the shovelware that replaced it in later versions. That, coupled with the much less complete printed manual, makes life more difficult for newbies. Many of the FrameMaker issues which come up over and over again on this list should be answered by declaring RTFM. Unfortuantely, that recommendation no longer applies in many cases. The same goes for the Acrobat manual. Dan Emory & Associates FrameMaker/FrameMaker+SGML Document Design & Database Publishing <danemory7224 at sbcglobal.net> _______________________________________________ You are currently subscribed to Framers as Laura_J_Kirk at bd.com. Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/laura_j_kirk%40bd.com Send administrative questions to lisa at frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ----------------------------------------- ************************************************** IMPORTANT MESSAGE FOR RECIPIENTS IN THE U.S.A: This message may constitute an advertisement of BD group's products or services or a solicitation of interest in them. If this is such a message and you would like to opt out of receiving future advertisements or solicitations from this BD group, please forward this e-mail to the optoutbygroup at bd.com. ************************************************** This message (which includes any attachments) is intended only for the designated recipient(s). It may contain confidential or proprietary information and may be subject to attorney-client privilege or other confidentiality protections. If you are not a designated recipient, you may not review, use, copy or distribute this message. If you received this in error, please notify the sender by reply e-mail and delete this message. Thank You ************************************************** Corporate Headquarters Mailing Address: BD (Becton, Dickinson and Company) 1 Becton Drive Franklin Lakes, NJ 07417 U.S.A.
