"Umpteen years"???  It's barely been two years since 7.2 (although
I'll admit that it has been about 5 years since 7.0 as the last major 
version release).

And IMO FM8.0 includes several pretty major new features and
capabilities, although from your perspective it may be easy to 
dismiss them as "it's about time" features or things that don't 
matter to you. In addition to Unicode support, both revision tracking 
and the improvements to conditional text (Boolean expressions 
for show/hide settings and better indications for overlapping 
conditions) are big features that would have involved a lot of 
development and testing effort. Yes, many of us have been 
asking for these features for years, but seeing Adobe investing 
resources to actually implement them in an application that 
all the tea-leaf readers were proclaiming as a dead product 
3 or 4 years ago is very heartening.

Just my opinion...
Fred Ridder


-----Original Message-----
From: framers-bounces+fred.ridder=intel....@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces+fred.ridder=intel.com at lists.frameusers.com] On
Behalf Of Alison Carrico
Sent: Friday, August 24, 2007 1:00 PM
To: framers at frameusers.com
Subject: RE: first impressions of FrameMaker 8

In my business (document/software translation/localization), the Unicode
support alone is worth the price of admission several times over. I was
as giddy as a schoolgirl when I printed a Russian doc to PDF & all the
bookmarks came out perfectly.  I've been using TimeSavers in 7.1 and,
while it is a huge help, there are characters in several languages that
do not convert correctly, requiring tedious copy/pasting to correct.
I'm working with the trial version until Purchasing gets the upgrade
ordered, and we'll recommend upgrading to several of our clients.  

BUT... it really is disappointing to see relatively few real
innovations. IMO, a lot of the new features warrant only an "It's about
time", not "Wow, cool!"  Makes me wonder what the Frame engineers at
Adobe have been doing for the umpteen years between 7.2 & this version.


-----Original Message-----
From:
framers-bounces+acarrico=adamsglobalization.com at lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces+acarrico=adamsglobalization.com at lists.frameusers
.com] On Behalf Of Sarah O'Keefe
Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2007 3:00 PM
To: framers at frameusers.com
Subject: first impressions of FrameMaker 8

I've posted an overview of FrameMaker 8 with my impressions here:

http://www.scriptorium.com/palimpsest/2007/08/framemaker-8-first-impress
ions.html

Please feel free to comment on the blog or in this forum. The review
itself is too long to post to the list in its entirety (and it has
screen shots and PDF links).

Regards,

Sarah O'Keefe
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Sarah O'Keefe                           okeefe at scriptorium.com
Scriptorium Publishing Services, Inc.   http://www.scriptorium.com
Blog: http://www.scriptorium.com/palimpsest/
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