Apple is very direct in their intention to make FCPX more favorable to the consumer and IMovie user. They recognize that the professional market is too small for their bottom line. Therefore, yes, they are dumbing it down. Why, otherwise, is every professional editor I know either switching or have otherwise switched already or are still working with FCP7?
On Apr 17, 2014, at 10:51 PM, chris bravo wrote:

I really don't get this idea that FCP X is "dumb"? What do people mean by that? FCP X is obviously not dumb, are you referring to features? Clip tagging with keywords, for example, is totally innovative and forward thinking (it seems to me) and allows an editor to navigate through more footage more quickly and organize it more intuitively and idiosyncratically. (Intuitively I think means in a way that makes obvious sense to the editor). Comparatively Premiere and AVID are way behind on that front. Magnetic timeline the same, once you become comfortable with the behaviors, its a much more stable timeline than the normal sequence strucutre and allows you to edit sections of a long cut with much greater confidence that you aren't fucking up the sequence by rippling tracks in ways that aren't obvious. Timeline inspector the same. In one window you can quickly get an overview of everything that appears in the timeline and quickly naviagte to specific clips and monitor their states. (Oh, wait, you don't know about that feature? Please continue expressing ill-informed opinions, though.). XML exporting the same, FCP X exports far and away the most detailed xml of any editing software and allows incredible flexibility moving projects into audio and online software. And anyways do people really think that somehow Apple is maliciously contributing to the stupidification of media production rather than, say, ADOBE? that is an insane position to take. Use whatever program you like, but this witch-hunting is tiresome.


On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 9:53 PM, Beebe, Roger W. <beebe...@osu.edu> wrote: On the original topic of editing software, I’d throw my weight behind switching to Premiere. At the University of Florida, I experimented for a semester with FCPX, and I found it buggy & dumbed down in ways that made it hard to do things that I’ve come to expect from my editing systems. The magnetic timeline is one of the worst innovations I’ve ever encountered, and the commingling of audio and video tracks just makes everything look chaotic. I’m sure I could’ve applied myself & gotten more familiar with the quirks of this system, but I preferred instead to switch over to Premiere, which had much more of the feel of FCP 7 and also had the advantage of integrating seamlessly with Premiere and After Effects.

I’m also on the UFVA list and this discussion has come up frequently. FCPX does have a few defenders, but it has produced much more dissatisfaction.

I’ve just relocated to Ohio State, and we’ve started anew in Premiere. The person who had been teaching the video classes here was teaching FCPX, but he seemed excited to switch over after the troubles he’s had with FCP.

As for hardware, here at Ohio State, our labs all have iMacs. The older ones really do slow down when you attempt to do anything slightly complex; even the newer ones are noticeably slower than the Mac Pros I left behind in Florida. It is a great cost savings though, and if you only have to pay with your time, it just depends on how much you’ll hate having to go make a pot of tea while you render a sequence. It’s certainly not impossible to do interesting, layered work on an iMac though.

2 cents,
R.

On Apr 17, 2014, at 9:42 PM, Aaron F. Ross <aa...@digitalartsguild.com> wrote:

> I would steer clear of iMacs for video editing, they are underpowered. If you want to render HD video, it's going to be slow and painful on even the high end iMacs. The Mac Pro is very fast, but very expensive. It is only available with small solid state drives, so you have to buy additional external hard drives.
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