look at ebay, one man's trash is another man's treasure. i think it is good
for the old to learn from the young and vice versa. it is a negotiation.
That is teaching, not one way. That is constructivist theory and I think it
fits right well with experimental philosophies of filmmaking.


On Thu, Apr 24, 2014 at 3:25 AM, <nicky.ham...@talktalk.net> wrote:

> This is what I do / did for semester one. Project one:one week, one
> minute, one shot, no sound. Project two: one week, two shots, and so on
> (including, or not, shot one from the previous project, building up to more
> complex structures. Drawing on film early on in the semester. A B&W
> project etc.
>
> Years ago, on the Time Based Media course founded by David Hall at KIAD
> Maidstone (UK), we used to have the students make no-technology time-based
> work before they got their hands on camcorders. This generally meant
> performance, a walk-through environment, sometimes a crawl through 
> environment,
> eg, where the spectator had to crawl through a tunnel made of cardboard
> boxes whiles they were subjected to human-generated effects from outside
> the tunnel, or an object that could only be seen in a series of
> successive moves etc. Worked well.
>
> Nicky.
>
>
>
>  -----Original Message-----
> From: John Knecht <jkne...@colgate.edu>
> To: Experimental Film Discussion List <frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com>
> Sent: Wed, 23 Apr 2014 20:39
> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] query for those who teach filmmaking
>
>
>  Tim,
>
>  I would hold their first projects to one minute in length.  Talk to them
> up front about each frame being "precious".  Hold them responsible for what
> they shoot.  Talk to them about light, color, motion (the camera moving and
> what is being shot as moving).  Keep it extraordinarily essential.  If they
> can learn to appreciate the shot that they are making,  if they can think
> about composition, color, and the semiotic system within each framed
> rectangle,  then they will be able someday to make any kind of film;
> narrative, doc, or strictly formal.  Forget this "story telling" stuff.
> That is something else.  Teach them about light and motion.  You will then
> have empowered them to use a cinematic tool to convey the content of what
> ever it is that they want to say to the world.  Then they can tell their
> stories if they have something to say.
>
>
>  jk
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 3:05 PM, Tim Halloran <televis...@hotmail.com>wrote:
>
>>  But with our students it actually is "speed" that's killing creativity,
>> as they become more and more acclimated to working "fast"--digital cameras,
>> digital editing systems, etc. Ah, it's just terrible--so much junk.
>>
>> Shoot slow, edit slow, experience slow. ;]
>>
>> Tim
>>
>>  ------------------------------
>> From: fl...@flickharrison.com
>> Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2014 12:29:52 -0700
>> To: frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com
>> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] query for those who teach filmmaking
>>
>> On Apr 18, 2014, at 15:26 , Tim Halloran <televis...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Slow=bad?!
>>
>> Bah.
>>
>> Tim
>>
>>
>> It's nice to work slowly if you are trying to do so; it's insanely
>> annoying if you are not.
>>
>>  Imagine if a painter put a stroke on the canvas and couldn't see it for
>> 30 seconds afterwards.  Not too many painters are striving to achieve that
>> workflow.
>>
>>  ;-)
>>
>>  --
>> ** WHERE'S MY ARTICLE, WORLD?* http://wikipedia.org/wiki/Flick_Harrison
>>
>>  ** FLICK's WEBSITE: *
>> http://www.flickharrison.com
>> [image: Zero for Conduct]<http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/ZeroForConduct/~6/2>
>> ↑ Grab this Headline 
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>>
>>  Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Apr 18, 2014, at 1:16 PM, "Flick Harrison" <fl...@flickharrison.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> ...will sloooooow you down, and that's bad creatively...
>>
>> - Flick
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