The first Lumiere arguably has two instances of montage: the decision made about the points of time at which to start and stop filming. And both seem carefully considered choices.

Fred Camper

On 5/22/2014 5:41 PM, Francisco Torres wrote:
Montage is used in  those films but only on the sly.... ;)

On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 2:53 AM, < <>> wrote:

    Afew films without montage, or indeed any editing in the
    conventional sense: Lumierefilms, All my Life, Serene Velocity,
    Sidewalk Shuttle, Wavelength, Central Region, Russian Ark,many
    films by James Benning, Malcolm LeGrice, Peter Gidal....


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    Sent: Wed, 21 May 2014 19:57
    Subject: Re: [Frameworks] New filmmaker

    ''Which principles do I have to bear in mind?''

    One principle-Montage.
    The stuff Cinema is made of.
    Because films ARE made of clashing frames.

    "If there is a God, it is a God of Montage''.
    David Cronenberg

    On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 2:11 PM, Julianna Schley
    < <>> wrote:

        I don't know where you live, but I know a great resource in
        Brooklyn is the public access channel. If you take an
        orientation and a class there (for under $100) you get to use
        their equipment. I imagine a lot of other cities have a
        similar set-up. That way you can try out a few different types
        of cameras, although it's possible that they will be out of
        date. I personally don't care about that. For me, just holding
        a camera and seeing a frame really changed how I thought about
        shooting. Good luck!

        On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 4:42 PM, Eleni Philippou
        <>> wrote:

            Dear all,

            I decided to start making my own films. Which camera shall
            I buy? Which principles do I have to bear in mind?
            Any advice welcome.

            Many many thanks,

            Eleni Filippou

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