Ferrania's got a survey up if you want to chime in: http://www.filmferrania.it/survey/
I wonder how long 3378e will be around... On Sat, Aug 30, 2014 at 1:57 PM, Francisco Torres <[email protected]> wrote: > forza ferrania! > > http://www.filmferrania.it/ > > > 2014-08-30 14:50 GMT-04:00 <[email protected]>: > > When I was a student in the mid 1970s, Ferrania used to make a good >> colour reversal film and five bath processing kit. This was in the days, >> now mostly long gone, when people did things; knitting, sewing, repairing, >> developing etc. The colour was beautiful: soft and subtle, but hard to >> control in processing. Amazing they're still around, >> >> Nicky. >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: 40 Frames <[email protected]> >> To: Experimental Film Discussion List <[email protected]> >> Sent: Sat, 30 Aug 2014 19:22 >> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Kodak Film Stocks to be Discontinued, Announced >> in December >> >> >> >> >> On Sat, Aug 30, 2014 at 9:53 AM, Jean-Louis Seguin <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> >>> Cheap shot? Maybe. I'm just so disappointed in Kodak, personally. >>> >>> I meet filmmakers all the time and it's surprising how many completely >>> ignore the fact that there are other manufacturers in the world apart from >>> Kodak that produce motion picture film stock. Some are truly amazed when I >>> mention this to them. >>> True, when it comes to color negative stocks, Kodak are the only source >>> at the moment. For everything else, there are options out there, luckily. >>> >>> >> >> It is a little complicated with Kodak's recent discontinuation of >> stocks. >> >> I like ORWO, however ORWO stocks -- both UN54 and N74 -- do not run >> through one of my cameras without needing >> to make adjustments for running color vs. BW. I've had issues with ORWO >> in another camera as well. I've had few issues >> like this with Kodak BW stocks. >> >> Also, with Kodak, being in education, I get a discount which makes it >> lower in cost than ORWO. >> >> I've been shooting a project that uses Double-X (7222), Tri-X (7266) >> processed as negative and ORWO's UN54 and N74. When all of these stocks are >> printed to 7203 the differences are pretty slight. I don't know what labs >> are printing to ORWO's >> BW print stocks... though I would be curious to know, since 7203 and 3302 >> may be put on the chopping block soon. >> >> Ferrania (http://www.filmferrania.it/) might be starting production of >> color film stocks, but I have yet to see anything...and >> who knows when such a stock will become available in North America. >> >> I'm not disagreeing with you necessarily, I just think that ORWO and >> Ferrania will have to prove they have the same level >> of QC as Kodak does (and Fuji did). Not that Kodak is/was flawless, but >> it's amazing how close to perfect they can get in >> manufacturing their stocks. >> >> Alain >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>> On 2014-08-30, at 12:21 PM, Edward Choi wrote: >>> >>> I'm a little confused about the discontinuation of 7203 and 7207 in >>> 100' rolls. Does it really save them that much at the margins when they're >>> continuing to manufacture the stock itself and offer it in larger >>> quantities? If someone who knows more about the way their manufacturing >>> chain is set up could explain this, and perhaps disabuse me of my naivety, >>> I would be most grateful! >>> >>> edo >>> >>> >>> On Sat, Aug 30, 2014 at 12:04 PM, Pablo Marin <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Although I agree with many of your points, Jean-Louis, I think that >>>> implying that Kodak doesn't have a "firm commitment to analog >>>> filmmaking" is kind of a cheap shot... when the issue is more >>>> complicated than that. >>>> >>>> Would hate to be mistaken for a capitalist/industry supporter here >>>> but the fact is I´m kind of afraid of what some of these "committed" firms >>>> will start charging for film once the big old dinosaurs are gone... not to >>>> mention I don't see a discount price for students being offered in most of >>>> these devoted manufacturers... >>>> >>>> All best, >>>> Pablo. >>>> >>>> >>>> On Saturday, August 30, 2014 12:52 PM, Jean-Louis Seguin < >>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> I wouldn't be too dismayed at the disappearance of Tri-X. >>>> Both ADOX and ORWO produce black and white reversal that is at least >>>> equal in quality to Tri-X. The new ADOX CHS-II in Super8 has received rave >>>> reviews since it's introduction and most users seem to find it superior to >>>> Tri-X. >>>> >>>> I would prefer to support companies that have a firm commitment to >>>> analog filmmaking rather then those that can't wait to pull the plug on >>>> everything. >>>> >>>> Jean-Louis >>>> >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> FrameWorks mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> 40 FRAMES >> Alain LeTourneau >> Pam Minty >> >> 40 FRAMES >> 5232 North Williams Avenue >> Portland, Oregon 97217 >> USA >> >> +1 503 231 6548 >> www.40frames.org >> www.16mmdirectory.org >> www.emptyquarterfilm.org >> >> _______________________________________________ >> FrameWorks mailing >> [email protected]https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> FrameWorks mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > FrameWorks mailing list > [email protected] > https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks > > -- ekrem serdar austin, tx
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