On Sat, Aug 30, 2014 at 12:06 PM, Ekrem Serdar <[email protected]> wrote:
> Ferrania's got a survey up if you want to chime in: > http://www.filmferrania.it/survey/ > > I wonder how long 3378e will be around... > My thoughts exactly... maybe Toscano has word on this?? Alain > > > On Sat, Aug 30, 2014 at 1:57 PM, Francisco Torres <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> forza ferrania! >> >> http://www.filmferrania.it/ >> >> >> 2014-08-30 14:50 GMT-04:00 <[email protected]>: >> >> When I was a student in the mid 1970s, Ferrania used to make a good >>> colour reversal film and five bath processing kit. This was in the days, >>> now mostly long gone, when people did things; knitting, sewing, repairing, >>> developing etc. The colour was beautiful: soft and subtle, but hard to >>> control in processing. Amazing they're still around, >>> >>> Nicky. >>> >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: 40 Frames <[email protected]> >>> To: Experimental Film Discussion List <[email protected]> >>> Sent: Sat, 30 Aug 2014 19:22 >>> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Kodak Film Stocks to be Discontinued, >>> Announced in December >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Sat, Aug 30, 2014 at 9:53 AM, Jean-Louis Seguin <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> Cheap shot? Maybe. I'm just so disappointed in Kodak, personally. >>>> >>>> I meet filmmakers all the time and it's surprising how many >>>> completely ignore the fact that there are other manufacturers in the >>>> world apart from Kodak that produce motion picture film stock. Some are >>>> truly amazed when I mention this to them. >>>> True, when it comes to color negative stocks, Kodak are the only source >>>> at the moment. For everything else, there are options out there, luckily. >>>> >>>> >>> >>> It is a little complicated with Kodak's recent discontinuation of >>> stocks. >>> >>> I like ORWO, however ORWO stocks -- both UN54 and N74 -- do not run >>> through one of my cameras without needing >>> to make adjustments for running color vs. BW. I've had issues with ORWO >>> in another camera as well. I've had few issues >>> like this with Kodak BW stocks. >>> >>> Also, with Kodak, being in education, I get a discount which makes it >>> lower in cost than ORWO. >>> >>> I've been shooting a project that uses Double-X (7222), Tri-X (7266) >>> processed as negative and ORWO's UN54 and N74. When all of these stocks are >>> printed to 7203 the differences are pretty slight. I don't know what labs >>> are printing to ORWO's >>> BW print stocks... though I would be curious to know, since 7203 and >>> 3302 may be put on the chopping block soon. >>> >>> Ferrania (http://www.filmferrania.it/) might be starting production of >>> color film stocks, but I have yet to see anything...and >>> who knows when such a stock will become available in North America. >>> >>> I'm not disagreeing with you necessarily, I just think that ORWO and >>> Ferrania will have to prove they have the same level >>> of QC as Kodak does (and Fuji did). Not that Kodak is/was flawless, but >>> it's amazing how close to perfect they can get in >>> manufacturing their stocks. >>> >>> Alain >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>> >>>> On 2014-08-30, at 12:21 PM, Edward Choi wrote: >>>> >>>> I'm a little confused about the discontinuation of 7203 and 7207 in >>>> 100' rolls. Does it really save them that much at the margins when they're >>>> continuing to manufacture the stock itself and offer it in larger >>>> quantities? If someone who knows more about the way their manufacturing >>>> chain is set up could explain this, and perhaps disabuse me of my naivety, >>>> I would be most grateful! >>>> >>>> edo >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sat, Aug 30, 2014 at 12:04 PM, Pablo Marin <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Although I agree with many of your points, Jean-Louis, I think that >>>>> implying that Kodak doesn't have a "firm commitment to analog >>>>> filmmaking" is kind of a cheap shot... when the issue is more >>>>> complicated than that. >>>>> >>>>> Would hate to be mistaken for a capitalist/industry supporter here >>>>> but the fact is I´m kind of afraid of what some of these "committed" firms >>>>> will start charging for film once the big old dinosaurs are gone... not to >>>>> mention I don't see a discount price for students being offered in most of >>>>> these devoted manufacturers... >>>>> >>>>> All best, >>>>> Pablo. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Saturday, August 30, 2014 12:52 PM, Jean-Louis Seguin < >>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I wouldn't be too dismayed at the disappearance of Tri-X. >>>>> Both ADOX and ORWO produce black and white reversal that is at least >>>>> equal in quality to Tri-X. The new ADOX CHS-II in Super8 has received rave >>>>> reviews since it's introduction and most users seem to find it superior to >>>>> Tri-X. >>>>> >>>>> I would prefer to support companies that have a firm commitment to >>>>> analog filmmaking rather then those that can't wait to pull the plug on >>>>> everything. >>>>> >>>>> Jean-Louis >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> FrameWorks mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> 40 FRAMES >>> Alain LeTourneau >>> Pam Minty >>> >>> 40 FRAMES >>> 5232 North Williams Avenue >>> Portland, Oregon 97217 >>> USA >>> >>> +1 503 231 6548 >>> www.40frames.org >>> www.16mmdirectory.org >>> www.emptyquarterfilm.org >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> FrameWorks mailing >>> [email protected]https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> FrameWorks mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> FrameWorks mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks >> >> > > > -- > ekrem serdar > austin, tx > > _______________________________________________ > FrameWorks mailing list > [email protected] > https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks > > -- 40 FRAMES Alain LeTourneau Pam Minty 40 FRAMES 5232 North Williams Avenue Portland, Oregon 97217 USA +1 503 231 6548 www.40frames.org www.16mmdirectory.org www.emptyquarterfilm.org
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