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2014-08-30 14:50 GMT-04:00 <[email protected]>: > When I was a student in the mid 1970s, Ferrania used to make a good > colour reversal film and five bath processing kit. This was in the days, > now mostly long gone, when people did things; knitting, sewing, repairing, > developing etc. The colour was beautiful: soft and subtle, but hard to > control in processing. Amazing they're still around, > > Nicky. > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: 40 Frames <[email protected]> > To: Experimental Film Discussion List <[email protected]> > Sent: Sat, 30 Aug 2014 19:22 > Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Kodak Film Stocks to be Discontinued, Announced > in December > > > > > On Sat, Aug 30, 2014 at 9:53 AM, Jean-Louis Seguin <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> >> Cheap shot? Maybe. I'm just so disappointed in Kodak, personally. >> >> I meet filmmakers all the time and it's surprising how many completely >> ignore the fact that there are other manufacturers in the world apart from >> Kodak that produce motion picture film stock. Some are truly amazed when I >> mention this to them. >> True, when it comes to color negative stocks, Kodak are the only source >> at the moment. For everything else, there are options out there, luckily. >> >> > > It is a little complicated with Kodak's recent discontinuation of > stocks. > > I like ORWO, however ORWO stocks -- both UN54 and N74 -- do not run > through one of my cameras without needing > to make adjustments for running color vs. BW. I've had issues with ORWO in > another camera as well. I've had few issues > like this with Kodak BW stocks. > > Also, with Kodak, being in education, I get a discount which makes it > lower in cost than ORWO. > > I've been shooting a project that uses Double-X (7222), Tri-X (7266) > processed as negative and ORWO's UN54 and N74. When all of these stocks are > printed to 7203 the differences are pretty slight. I don't know what labs > are printing to ORWO's > BW print stocks... though I would be curious to know, since 7203 and 3302 > may be put on the chopping block soon. > > Ferrania (http://www.filmferrania.it/) might be starting production of > color film stocks, but I have yet to see anything...and > who knows when such a stock will become available in North America. > > I'm not disagreeing with you necessarily, I just think that ORWO and > Ferrania will have to prove they have the same level > of QC as Kodak does (and Fuji did). Not that Kodak is/was flawless, but > it's amazing how close to perfect they can get in > manufacturing their stocks. > > Alain > > > > > >> >> On 2014-08-30, at 12:21 PM, Edward Choi wrote: >> >> I'm a little confused about the discontinuation of 7203 and 7207 in >> 100' rolls. Does it really save them that much at the margins when they're >> continuing to manufacture the stock itself and offer it in larger >> quantities? If someone who knows more about the way their manufacturing >> chain is set up could explain this, and perhaps disabuse me of my naivety, >> I would be most grateful! >> >> edo >> >> >> On Sat, Aug 30, 2014 at 12:04 PM, Pablo Marin <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> Although I agree with many of your points, Jean-Louis, I think that >>> implying that Kodak doesn't have a "firm commitment to analog filmmaking" >>> is kind of a cheap shot... when the issue is more complicated than that. >>> >>> Would hate to be mistaken for a capitalist/industry supporter here but >>> the fact is I´m kind of afraid of what some of these "committed" firms will >>> start charging for film once the big old dinosaurs are gone... not to >>> mention I don't see a discount price for students being offered in most of >>> these devoted manufacturers... >>> >>> All best, >>> Pablo. >>> >>> >>> On Saturday, August 30, 2014 12:52 PM, Jean-Louis Seguin < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> I wouldn't be too dismayed at the disappearance of Tri-X. >>> Both ADOX and ORWO produce black and white reversal that is at least >>> equal in quality to Tri-X. The new ADOX CHS-II in Super8 has received rave >>> reviews since it's introduction and most users seem to find it superior to >>> Tri-X. >>> >>> I would prefer to support companies that have a firm commitment to >>> analog filmmaking rather then those that can't wait to pull the plug on >>> everything. >>> >>> Jean-Louis >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> FrameWorks mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks >> >> > > > -- > 40 FRAMES > Alain LeTourneau > Pam Minty > > 40 FRAMES > 5232 North Williams Avenue > Portland, Oregon 97217 > USA > > +1 503 231 6548 > www.40frames.org > www.16mmdirectory.org > www.emptyquarterfilm.org > > _______________________________________________ > FrameWorks mailing > [email protected]https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks > > > _______________________________________________ > FrameWorks mailing list > [email protected] > https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks > >
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