Invoking all these other people is specious. It's still not clear what your 
point is.... "the real dominance of women"?

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> On May 25, 2015, at 6:37 AM, Bernard Roddy <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Chris, I didn't intend a connection between the objection to recognition for 
> the film and the observation about the presence of women at festivals.
> 
> But do you remember Cari Machet?  So often the exchanges on this list raise 
> interesting questions that are quite incidental to anything anyone might want 
> to stand by.  I mean, the effect of the list is (this is an idea I remember 
> Laurie Anderson identifying in an interview years ago, one I happened to have 
> on an old VHS tape), the effect of writing like this is to give the 
> impression of being committed to something (compare the experience we might 
> have live, where it would not have such an effect).  Anyway, Gene Youngblood 
> gets called out on a remark that invites a feminist protest, and Cari, who 
> had long been on this list and who means so much to it, seemed to get caught 
> up in . . in what . . a flaming pattern (but Chris, didn't we love that, I 
> mean isn't there a need for flaming, even if we really don't want the time 
> for it?).  
> 
> So in passing I had to comment on the real dominance of women . .  But I 
> don't want to commit to more than what I might be held to if I were to say 
> that in passing over a beer, I don't want to be taken back to it and have to 
> find a defence for some generalization.  I couldn't defend anything other 
> than an impression, an impression that was perhaps partly a result of my 
> selection of programs to attend, partly a result of the names that surface on 
> the juries or for awards.  I could, of course, look for reasons to rebut 
> myself.  But if you were there . . if you were at the night of Jennifer 
> Reeder's film, as I said to Naz ouside (she who won an award at Chicago), I'm 
> lost.  I'm lost with respect to whether it makes any sense to be thinking 
> about advocating for anything.  And I am reminded of women artists who find 
> it annoying that such a thing as gender would be introduced so easily, 
> perhaps so thoughtlessly, when discussing their work, for example.  (But then 
> we have the kind of thing that Youngblood raised, something that is really 
> very strange, and really fires us up, even if he may be a sweetheart or 
> something, I wouldn't know).
> 
> But the remarks on the film, Things, came to me all of a sudden when I 
> happened to pass the page for Ann Arbor, which I only looked at yesterday 
> briefly (I had just sent a link of a Raczynska page to a new friend).  
> 
> 
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> 
> 
> Bernie
> 
> 
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