On 07/24/11 19:11, Claude Buisson wrote:
On 07/24/2011 23:33, Nathan Whitehorn wrote:
On 07/24/11 16:29, eculp wrote:
I have been hearing about a new installer but I obviously have not
payed enough attention, I am afraid. I started running freebsd at 2.0
and never really had a problem with understanding the installation
program.  There is always a first time, I guess.


When booting I seem to get a screen that makes me remember installer
screens of the 1980s.  (They were not exactly intuitive.)

I somehow got the idea that the new installer was graphic.  Maybe
something like PCBsd that is not bad at all.  I use it on all our
employees computers.  Actually, after seeing this, I would love to
have the old installer back.  Is their an option for that?

Does this new ASCII installer have a "how to" with a bit of
information on the flow of the installation.


Can you please describe what you didn't like about it, and what you
would prefer be changed? "Reminiscent of the 1980s" is not really
helpful, especially given that the new installer in fact looks very much
like sysinstall, which you seemed to like.

Recently I installed a system from the "official" memory stick May snapshot
(FreeBSD-9.0-CURRENT-201105-amd64-memstick.img). here are a few remarks:

Thank you for testing!

- the 1st thing I need to do is to configure the keyboard, as I am not in the US. This is needed for an install, but also for using it as a live system. And the keyboard configuration dialog is only a part of the installation procedure.

Which is why this is the very first screen of the installer?

- the partition tool is too simple/rudimentary, compared to the old sysinstall dialog. I always want to have a total control of the partitions e.g. to have a proper alignement. So one must use the shell escape or the live system, which is
a regression.

The alignment is done to match the disk stripe size automatically, and the partition editor has many, many more features than the sysinstall one. Is there something in particular you wanted?

- extracting the tarballs lead to (cryptic) errors: I discovered the hard way
that I needed to execute a newfs.

This is what the directions at the top of the partitioning shell say.

- I followed a succession of screens asking me to do the usual configuration steps (hostname, clock, network - IPv4 only ?? -, users) and at the end I get back a screen asking me if a wanted to do the steps I had done just before...

The network configuration also allows IPv6 in newer versions -- that snapshot is 2 months out of date. The final screen says at the top that is there to modify earlier choices. Can you suggest a clearer wording?

- booting the installed system, I found that the hostname disappeared, the
keyboard was not configured, nor the network, and so on

This is inexplicable. This has worked perfectly for everyone else -- it's possible you made a mistake in the partitioning, but I can't imagine how it would have caused this. Are you able to reproduce the problem?

- during the whole process the screen was scrambled by the occurence of a number
of LORs displayed on top of the dialogs/messages of the installer.

The actual 9.0 CDs will not have WITNESS enabled. It would be nice if the LORs in question were actually fixed, however.

- the file system of the installer/live system seems to be too small, leading to
a number of "system full" messages as soon a few files are written to it.

The live system is designed more as a fixit medium. What were you trying to do with it?

Referring to a thread I found recently a propos the documentation on the install media, I also want to say that a proper installer must be able to do its work without any Internet connectivity. There exist systems which are not connected,
and networks without any communication with the Internet.

Which is why it behaves in exactly the way you suggest.
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