On Thu, 2014-07-17 at 13:21 -0700, Adrian Chadd wrote:
> On 17 July 2014 13:15, Navdeep Parhar <npar...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On 07/17/14 13:12, Adrian Chadd wrote:
> >> On 17 July 2014 13:03, Alberto Mijares <amijar...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 2:58 PM, Adrian Chadd <adr...@freebsd.org> wrote:
> >>>> Hi!
> >>>> 3) The binary packages need to work out of the box
> >>>> 4) .. which means, when you do things like pkg install apache, it
> >>>> can't just be installed and not be enabled, because that's a bit of a
> >>>> problem;
> >>> No. Please NEVER do that! The user must be able to edit the files and
> >>> start the service by himself.
> >> Cool, so what's the single line command needed to type in to start a
> >> given package service?
> > Aren't sysrc(8) and service(8) for this kind of stuff?
> Yup, and if the default is going to be off, then you want the
> instructions to be "type this in", not "edit this file."
> There's odd things too, like "oh look I installed xorg, but then I
> can't run it without enabling hald/dbus, then starting it.. oh wait,
> no mouse, so I have to reboot for them to come up right" kind of crap.
> That's the kind of thing that turns people away.
I see your point, and agree that there should be clear instructions
after installing a port/package. Most ports I install already do a good
job at this.
But I would not like anything to autostart just because I install it.
Prefer to enable rather than disable something, or worse, having it
autostart without knowing.
That's the kind of thing that turned me to FreeBSD :-)
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