On 27-Aug-01 Daniel Eischen wrote:
> On Mon, 27 Aug 2001, John Baldwin wrote:
>> On 27-Aug-01 Julian Elischer wrote:
>> > I am ready to do my megga-commit to add the first stage of KSE-threading
>> > support
>> > to 
>> > the kernel. If there is any argument as to the wisdom of this move,
>> > then this is the time to speak up!
>> > 
>> > At this stage a commit would break alpha and ia64 until 
>> > they are patched. From experience I can say that it's not a horrific
>> > change to the machine dependent code so patches PRE commit would be 
>> > welcome.
>> Just to get this out in the public: I for one think 5.x has enough changes
>> in
>> it and would like for KSE to be postponed to 6.0-current and 6.0-release.  I
>> know that I am in the minority on this, but wanted to say it anyways.  It
>> doesn't mean I don't like the KSE work or anything like that (I've even
>> helped
>> out on it some), I just think we have enough work in our basket.  Also, I'll
>> point out that p4's merging abilities make tracking current relatively easy,
>> much more so than if Julian was maintaining a separate tree with this patch
>> and
>> having to keep updating current and manually merge it all the time.
> I think waiting for 6.0-current is too long.  Perhaps after 5.0-release.
> If we get this in 5.0, we might be able to have a usable kse threads
> library for 5.1 or 5.2.

I'm predicting a short release cycle between 5.0 and 6.0 (compared to 4.0 and
5.0) because 6.0 is probably going to be much more stable than 5.x.

> I've used p4 to track the CAM changes before they were in -current.  It 
> was initially easy when only the kernel was involved, but once userland
> was was touched I ended up having to use p4 to track everything else.
> At the time I didn't have enough disk space to have both a CVS src/
> tree and a p4 tree.  Plus it's difficult when you have more than one
> development system because you can't just keep one CVS repo and update
> all your systems from that.

NFS works for that (it's what I do with all my development systems, one shared
kernel souce tree over NFS with various p4 kernel sys trees checked out). 
However, I agree adding userland into the mix will complicate things.


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