> Beside that
> leaves you in general also with the problem on how to transfer your
> programs from your fancy Windows/Linux/macOS box to that VM. That's a
> problem that that you simply do not have when programming ON DOS.

Well, I often use DOS in an emulator (pcem) because that emulates
specific hardware from an old 4Mhz 8086 up to a Pentium Overdrive MMX
and two dozen different graphics adapters from Hercules to a Stealth
3D 2000, which is really helpful if you test hardware-specific
routines.

Like all emulators/Vm's it uses Disk images (and isos for CDROM), so
the easiest way to get your stuff from from your Linux machine to the
VM is creating a disk image of your stuff, or an iso if it is too
large for a disk. with dd and the loopback interface that's a matter
of seconds. I made a script for it, so it's literally a one-liner on
the command line.

It's even easier if you run FreeDOS in Virtualbox, where the network
drivers actually work instead of bailing out with a 'physical hardware
networking not supported' error. Install the sshdos2 package and you
can simply scp your stuff to the VM.

cheers, Danilo

On Fri, 6 Oct 2023 at 03:13, Ralf Quint via Freedos-devel
<freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> wrote:
>
> On 10/5/2023 4:44 AM, tom ehlert via Freedos-devel wrote:
> > Hallo Herr Ralf Quint via Freedos-devel,
> >
> > am Donnerstag, 5. Oktober 2023 um 02:50 schrieben Sie:
> >
> >> On 10/3/2023 11:30 AM, Michael Brutman via Freedos-devel wrote:
> >>> There is no point in punishing everybody by shipping tools that most > 
> >>> people don't use.  You can probably count all of the active DOS > 
> >>> developers on your fingers and toes.
> >>>
> >>> All of the various tools and compilers remain available for download.  > 
> >>> Not being on the CD image is not the barrier it used to be.
> >> But could you consider that there are so few people programming in and for 
> >> DOS simply because there are no simple to use programming environments 
> >> available and instead some folks keep pushing oversized Linux influenced 
> >> behemoths of  programming environment which need to be shoehorned to run 
> >> and produce results within the basic limitations of DOS?
> > i have said it before, but repeat it anyway:
> Well, no matter how many time you repeat that, that doesn't make it in
> MY opinion a valid argument.
>
> I joined some retro computing and BASIC groups and there are LOTS of
> people  that would just for old times sake like to program in (Free)DOS,
> in something simple as a BASIC interpreter, like they did 30 years ago.
> Not everyone wants to run DOS to play games. Or develop multi-megabyte
> applications. And not everyone is running (Free)DOS in a VM. Beside that
> leaves you in general also with the problem on how to transfer your
> programs from your fancy Windows/Linux/macOS box to that VM. That's a
> problem that that you simply do not have when programming ON DOS.
>
> Ralf
>
>
>
>
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