I think you're blinded by DJGPP. At no point did I argue for keeping THAT
mess in... or gcc-ia16. You just assumed that I would, so assumed that's
exactly what I was advocating for. No, keep it simple. A "base" disc's dev
tools shouldn't take more than 20MB at most. An assembler, a basic 16-bit C
compiler (Small C?), a 'make' tool of some sort, a cheap linker (if the
compiler and assembler don't already include these.) Maybe FreeBASIC. The
largest piece of this would be FreeBASIC at 8MB for version 1.10 released
this year. It's been a while since I've looked, but certainly one could
ship basic dev tools on the base disc and leave the heavyweight GNU crap
for the supplemental disc.
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On Wed, Oct 4, 2023 at 7:53 PM Ralf Quint via Freedos-devel <
freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> wrote:

> On 10/3/2023 11:30 AM, Michael Brutman via Freedos-devel wrote:
> > There is no point in punishing everybody by shipping tools that most
> > people don't use.  You can probably count all of the active DOS
> > developers on your fingers and toes.
> >
> > All of the various tools and compilers remain available for download.
> > Not being on the CD image is not the barrier it used to be.
>
> But could you consider that there are so few people programming in and
> for DOS simply because there are no simple to use programming
> environments available and instead some folks keep pushing oversized
> Linux influenced behemoths of  programming environment which need to be
> shoehorned to run and produce results within the basic limitations of DOS?
>
>
> Ralf
>
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