I don't "need" FreeDOS on that machine, full install or otherwise.  All
I wanted to do was take a look at FreeDOS to find out what it can do.

What I found was that the boot floppy created is incomplete and that
therefore the installation doesn't work.  I got around that with help
from this group but found that this did not install a boot menu to allow
me to carry on using the existing PC-DOS, contrary to the Install wiki
which says:

"If you install to a C: drive which already has another DOS or Windows
95/98 on it, the installer will often be able to automatically install a
boot menu and keep FreeDOS configuration separate from the config and
autoexec of the other DOS or Windows."

Okay, it says "will often be able to" but in my case it didn't.  There
is probably a way to get it to work but at this point I concluded that
it's just not worth the effort.

What I will do is to start again from scratch, set up a dual boot of
PC-DOS and MS-DOS, and install Windows For Workgroups (for networking)
and DesqView (because I love it).  I prefer PC-DOS but it doesn't seem
to like QEMM which is required for DesqView; hence the need for MS-DOS.

This machine was built in about 1995 and originally came with Windows
95.  I was given it in about 2000, immediately replaced Win 95 with DOS
and have been using it frequently ever since.  I have several more
powerful computers, including another laptop, but I like this one and
find it useful so I'll continue running it until it dies.  Here are the
specs:

Toshiba T1950CT
CPU: 486 DX2
RAM: The maximum possible, a massive 20 Mb
Graphics: VGA, VL-bus
Sound card: None
CD: None.  Hence the problem
Mouse: A tracker ball which clips on the side and works with any
standard Microsoft mouse driver.  Personally I hardly ever use mice on
this machine and avoid them elsewhere.

It also has a PCMCIA slot in which I have a network card.  The original
hard drive was 200 Mb but I put a 1 Gb drive in, running OnTrack Disk
Manager to overcome the BIOS restriction.

I use it for writing (WordPerfect), spreadsheets (Quattro Pro) and so
on, as well as programming in C and Clipper.  The battery life is good
enough for me to take it out to the cafe, I like the keyboard and the
whole machine feels solid and reliable.  I'm very fond of it.

Because it's my DOS computer it was the natural choice to try out
FreeDOS.  I also have FreeDOS on other computers, including under dosemu
in Linux, but those are all multi-boot machines and DOS never seems to
get used as much as the other operating systems.

What I've also learned from this experiment is that the users are
helpful, knowledgeable and friendly, so I'm not entirely giving up on
FreeDOS!

  Chris


----- Original message -----
From: "Rugxulo" <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2011 03:33:00 -0500
Subject: Re: [Freedos-user] Installing with no CD drive

Hi, (sorry I'm late)

On 6/20/11, Chris D <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> I am having trouble installing FreeDOS on an ancient Toshiba laptop
> which has no CD drive, only a floppy.

Do you really want / need a "full" FreeDOS install? In particular,
what apps do you really want / need? Games? Development? Networking?

I don't want to say I'm an "expert" on floppies, but as far as mini
FreeDOS floppy distros go, I'm pretty used to it by now.  :-)

(I know Eric promotes my "old" 2008 RUFFIDEA [three disks] sometimes,
or even his "Brezel" mini distro, but I halfway think mine's too old
and quirky to be generally useful, esp. nowadays. Alas. And it's just
too hard to update properly, and I have "real life" chapping my ass,
so that doesn't help either, heheh.)

Anyways, please keep up posted, and let us know if we can help more
specifically.

EDIT: What cpu / RAM / HD / graphics / soundcard / CD / mouse does the
laptop use (if applicable)?

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