> -----Original Message----- > From: Rugxulo [mailto:rugx...@gmail.com] > Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2013 12:54 AM > To: Discussion and general questions about FreeDOS. > Subject: Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos V2.0 - when will it be available? > > Hi, > > On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 1:49 PM, dmccunney > <dennis.mccun...@gmail.com> wrote: > > On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 2:36 PM, David C. Kerber > > <dker...@warrenrogersassociates.com> wrote: > >>> From: dmccunney [mailto:dennis.mccun...@gmail.com] > >>> On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 11:13 AM, Rugxulo > <rugx...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > >>> > I thought WinME removed the real mode bootup, hence lower > >>> compatibility? > >>> > >>> Don't have it and haven't used it, so don't know. Everything I've > >>> heard indicates it should have been called Win98 Third > Edition. I'm > >>> pretty sure there was still DOS underneath like in ME. > Removing the > >>> real mode loader didn't occur till NT. > >> > >> Win NT4 significantly pre-dated Win 98; it came out in > about '96. Many people feel WinME was one of the worst > pieces of software ever written, while 98SE was very good. > Win2k was the best, IMO. > > I don't know about that. Win2k was more stable, but it was also > bigger, slower, and had worse DOS compatibility. And lots of bugs. But > it was better for Win32 stuff, esp. Unicode. Yet barely anything still > supports it nowadays. I'm surprised (but glad) people still target XP > (which is both slightly better and worse than 2k in various ways).
Win2K was dramatically faster than any Win9x OS for 32-bit software, though probably slower for 16-bit windows apps (though I hardly ever used any of them). It was very fast for straight DOS apps like dBASE, but I never ran any controlled benchmarks against 9x on those. > > > I ran NT4 back then, but as a server OS in a computer room. It was > > not an end-user product. It took Win2K for sufficient compatibility > > (like the ability to use FAT32) to make it a usable end user OS. > > NT 4.0 didn't support DOS LFNs (int 21h, 71xxh) nor FAT32. Though I > don't see how that's a huge deal breaker, no worse than all the other > compatibility problems forced on us. Also, FAT32 isn't supported very > much anymore, esp. Vista on up can't boot from it, so I'm not sure > support for it is here for much longer. (With exFAT and ReFS, who > knows?) > > > 98SE was certainly an improvement over prior Win9X > releases. I ran it > > longer than I really wanted because I was waiting for drivers for > > peripherals I used to arrive. When I finally had them all, > I switched > > to 2K in a heartbeat. Despite my best efforts, 98SE reached the > > point where I was rebooting multiple times per day to be able to get > > things done. Win2K just ran, and got rebooted only if I installed > > software that required it or I was fiddling with hardware. > > Yes, it's more stable, but it doesn't run a lot of DOS stuff nearly as > well as 9x. Granted, it was "good enough" for "most" things (more or > less), but that support only got worse and worse, esp. with Vista. I > don't know, some people don't mind recompiling all their apps (or just > use popular GNU utils that are ported everywhere), but it seems > unnecessary. We shouldn't have so much deprecation every few years. (I > don't care how "old" or "uncool", it just works, so why break it?) > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > ---------------- > Master Visual Studio, SharePoint, SQL, ASP.NET, C# 2012, HTML5, CSS, > MVC, Windows 8 Apps, JavaScript and much more. Keep your > skills current > with LearnDevNow - 3,200 step-by-step video tutorials by Microsoft > MVPs and experts. ON SALE this month only -- learn more at: > http://p.sf.net/sfu/learnmore_122712 > _______________________________________________ > Freedos-user mailing list > Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Master Visual Studio, SharePoint, SQL, ASP.NET, C# 2012, HTML5, CSS, MVC, Windows 8 Apps, JavaScript and much more. Keep your skills current with LearnDevNow - 3,200 step-by-step video tutorials by Microsoft MVPs and experts. ON SALE this month only -- learn more at: http://p.sf.net/sfu/learnmore_122712 _______________________________________________ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
