On Wed, Aug 19, 2015 at 6:14 PM, Thomas Mueller <[email protected]> wrote, 
and Rugxulo responded:

> > I used elvis in DR-DOS 7.03 and FreeDOS, but elvis hasn't been updated 
> > since 2.2_0.

> > I tried vim (7.0?) in DOS, had difficulty with more than one file at a 
> > time, now use vi which is nvi,
> > but this has not been ported to DOS.

> I'm very skeptical that VIM wouldn't work properly for you since it's
> by far the most popular and feature-rich text editor in existence. But
> anyways, if you can't figure it out, try VILE instead.

> > I remember how elvis would bog down and become very slow as file size 
> > exceeded 1.5 MB,
> > no such problem in Linux Slackware and no such problem with nvi in FreeBSD 
> > and NetBSD.

> Again, VILE works fine, thanks to being compiled by DJGPP (32-bit DPMI).

> > I tried FDNPKG in FreeDOS, it worked some of the time, but other times it 
> > messed up:
> > not nearly as well developed as package management in Linux and *BSD.

> We're very lucky to have someone as talented as Mateusz to contribute.
> Having said that, even Ubuntu (Snappy??) and FreeBSD (pkg-ng??)
> seemingly have changed package managers semi-recently, so it's not
> like they have it all figured out either.

> > Allegro and other software packages that included DOS support seem to have 
> > dropped DOS support.

> Yes, that's old news. First they broke the build system (requiring
> Cmake), then they switched entirely to OpenGL (EDIT: and DirectX,
> according to Wikipedia) backend. DOS doesn't have OpenGL (except
> software-only ancient versions of Mesa, which was never widely used in
> most DJGPP programs).

I believe the vim version I used in DOS was 7.0, 32-bit.

I just visited vim.org website, 7.1 was the last for DOS 16-bit, and 7.3 was 
the last for DOS 32-bit.

I never used VILE, was put off by "like Emacs" part.

Now I see vim has moved to GitHub.

I think FDNPKG is simply a binary installer, can it update?  But FreeBSD ports 
and pkgng, and NetBSD pkgsrc, and Gentoo portage, are no doubt much more 
advanced.

Difficulties and limitations with DOS software, especially on modern computers, 
cause me to not do much in that area; a long time since I last used a text 
editor in DOS. 

Tom


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