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[mailto:freeipa-users-boun...@redhat.com] On Behalf Of Dmitri Pal
Sent: Friday, October 03, 2014 2:01 PM
To: freeipa-users@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [Freeipa-users] FW: FW: named and IpA

On 10/03/2014 03:43 PM, Licause, Al (CSC AMS BCS - UNIX/Linux Network
Support) wrote:
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Licause, Al (CSC AMS BCS - UNIX/Linux Network Support)
> Sent: Friday, October 03, 2014 10:30 AM
> To: 'freeipa-users@redhat.com'
> Subject: FW: [Freeipa-users] FW: named and IpA
>
> I am not a specialist but can it be that when you run just named it uses 
> files and when you start IPA it uses LDAP database and the issue that the 
> forwarders are correctly recorded in files (manually?) but not in the LDAP 
> database?
>
>>>   This certainly makes sense.....but then having entered the forwarders 
>>> using ipa dnsconfig-mod --forwarders=......
>>>    didn't seem to make a difference.      I assume the ipa dnsconfig-mod 
>>> command places those forwarders
>>>    in the ldap database ?
>>>   But having done so, does anything have to be restarted to get this to 
>>> work or is the effect immediate  ?
>>>>   Actually I just tried ipactl restart which should restart all components 
>>>> including named and I am still unable
>>>>   to resolve any hostnames or ip addresses off this system other than 
>>>> something from the root servers.....so
>>>>   I supposed it could be a named configuration issue....but then why does 
>>>> that issue resolve itself when
>>>>   the IdM components are removed from the picture ?

is there one named.conf?

>>> yes...from all I can tell:
>>>  [root@linux named]# ls -l /etc/named.conf
>>>  -rw-r----- 1 root named 1317 Oct  3 09:07 /etc/named.conf

May be there some env variable that redirects it or there is symlink and in one 
case it uses one and in another case another.
I am just speculating. I do not know for sure.

>>>  did a printenv and found nothing related to named.

Something is strange and may be differen in this setup.

>>> I would agree.....but I wish I could figure out what it is.

Have you tried a different machine or VM and a clean install there?

>>> Unfortunately we have a limited number of test systems and this is our only 
>>> RHEL V7 system at the moment.
>>>  Should another one become available, I'll try to install the IdM sets on 
>>> that and see if we get the same results.

Al

> Al
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: freeipa-users-boun...@redhat.com 
> [mailto:freeipa-users-boun...@redhat.com] On Behalf Of Dmitri Pal
> Sent: Friday, October 03, 2014 10:16 AM
> To: freeipa-users@redhat.com
> Subject: Re: [Freeipa-users] FW: named and IpA
>
> On 10/03/2014 11:13 AM, Licause, Al (CSC AMS BCS - UNIX/Linux Network
> Support) wrote:
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: freeipa-users-boun...@redhat.com 
>> [mailto:freeipa-users-boun...@redhat.com] On Behalf Of Petr Spacek
>> Sent: Friday, October 03, 2014 1:26 AM
>> To: freeipa-users@redhat.com
>> Subject: Re: [Freeipa-users] named and IpA
>>
>> On 2.10.2014 19:05, Licause, Al (CSC AMS BCS - UNIX/Linux Network Support) 
>> wrote:
>>> We have IdM running on a RHEL V7 system and have configured a local 
>>> DNS server in our test lab.
>>>
>>> We have loaded the various SRV and TXT records needed by the IdM server.
>>>
>>>
>>> PROBLEM:
>>>
>>> >From the IdM server we can only lookup local records.  The name
>>>> resolver will not
>>> attempt to look to another other name servers or domains defined in 
>>> /etc/resolv.conf
>>>
>>> If I shutdown IdM using ipactl stop and then restart named, the name 
>>> resolver works for local and remote hosts, addresses and domains as 
>>> well as serving up the SRV records defined on the local host.
>>>
>>> Am I correct in assuming that while IdM is up and running, the only 
>>> other systems it will communicate with at least with regard to name 
>>> services is another host also running IdM defined either as a server or a 
>>> client ?
>>>
>>> If this is case, is there anyone to better integrate some of these 
>>> common services such as named into an existing network such that you are 
>>> not limited by the IdM components ?
>> I would like to get additional information about your environment:
>> - Is the IPA server is installed with DNS or not? Did you use option 
>> --setup-dns during ipa-server-install?
>>
>>>>     I have tried it both ways, but the most current in which we see this 
>>>> behavior I ran ipa-server-install with
>>>>     no arguments and said yes to the question about installing DNS.     I 
>>>> then replied with two valid forwarders.
>>>>     In a previous installation,  we added two of our local zones from one 
>>>> of the other dns server
>>>>     and then added the sample zone provided by the installation which 
>>>> contained the various SRV and TXT
>>>>     records.       But for current reporting of this problem, we did not 
>>>> add/load the other zone files.
>> - Which DNS zones do you have defined on IPA server? You can use command 
>> "ipa dnszone-find" to list all zones.
>>
>> [root@linux named]# ipa dnsconfig-mod
>> --forwarder=16.112.240.27;16.112.240.40
>> ipa: ERROR: no modifications to be performed
>> bash: 16.112.240.40: command not found...
>> [root@linux named]# ipa dnszone-find
>>     Zone name: 240.112.16.in-addr.arpa.
>>     Authoritative nameserver: linux.osn.cxo.cpqcorp.net.
>>     Administrator e-mail address: hostmaster.osn.cxo.cpqcorp.net.
>>     SOA serial: 1412344406
>>     SOA refresh: 3600
>>     SOA retry: 900
>>     SOA expire: 1209600
>>     SOA minimum: 3600
>>     Active zone: TRUE
>>     Allow query: any;
>>     Allow transfer: none;
>>
>>     Zone name: osn.cxo.cpqcorp.net
>>     Authoritative nameserver: linux.osn.cxo.cpqcorp.net.
>>     Administrator e-mail address: hostmaster.osn.cxo.cpqcorp.net.
>>     SOA serial: 1412344406
>>     SOA refresh: 3600
>>     SOA retry: 900
>>     SOA expire: 1209600
>>     SOA minimum: 3600
>>     Active zone: TRUE
>>     Allow query: any;
>>     Allow transfer: none;
>> ----------------------------
>> Number of entries returned 2
>> ----------------------------
>>
>> - Is there any other DNS servers serving same DNS zones?
>>
>>>>    Yes....we left the other two existing DNS servers in place as they are 
>>>> our primary name servers for this lab segment.
>>>>    Those are the two systems we have entered as forwarders.
>> - Did you configure forwarders in /etc/named.conf or via ipa command line 
>> tools (ipa dnsconfig-mod or --forwarder option during ipa-server-install)?
>>
>>>>    The forwarders were placed in the /etc/named.conf file by the 
>>>> ipa-server-install script or one of its subordinate scripts
>>>>    I  did try entering the forward policy and forwarders using ipa 
>>>> dnsconfig-mod but they didn't seem to change the behavior.
>>>>     One thing I did notice was that ipa dnsconfig-mod  --forwarder=      
>>>> only allowed one forwarder to be entered.....adding
>>>>     a second entry on the line resulted in an error.    If entered with a 
>>>> second --forwarders command, the previous forwarder
>>>>     was replaced by the new one.      So if there is a particular syntax 
>>>> that would allow more than one entry, can you please
>>>>     post same ?
>> - Please attach result of DNS lookups using "dig" command: One output when 
>> it doesn't work (i.e. with IPA running) and the other when it works as you 
>> expect (i.e. after "ipactl stop" and "service named restart").
>>
>>>> with ipa running:
>> [root@linux named]# nslookup dl160a.osn.cxo.cpqcorp.net
>> Server:         16.112.240.59
>> Address:        16.112.240.59#53
>>
>> ** server can't find dl160a.osn.cxo.cpqcorp.net: NXDOMAIN
>>
>> [root@linux named]# dig dl160a.osn.cxo.cpqcorp.net
>>
>> ; <<>> DiG 9.9.4-RedHat-9.9.4-14.el7 <<>> dl160a.osn.cxo.cpqcorp.net 
>> ;; global options: +cmd ;; Got answer:
>> ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NXDOMAIN, id: 6571 ;; flags: 
>> qr aa rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 1, ADDITIONAL: 1
>>
>> ;; OPT PSEUDOSECTION:
>> ; EDNS: version: 0, flags:; udp: 4096 ;; QUESTION SECTION:
>> ;dl160a.osn.cxo.cpqcorp.net.    IN      A
>>
>> ;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
>> osn.cxo.cpqcorp.net.    3600    IN      SOA     linux.osn.cxo.cpqcorp.net. 
>> hostmaster.osn.cxo.cpqcorp.net. 1412344406 3600 900 1209600 3600
>>
>> ;; Query time: 1 msec
>> ;; SERVER: 16.112.240.59#53(16.112.240.59) ;; WHEN: Fri Oct 03
>> 11:08:35 EDT 2014 ;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 108
>>
>>    
>> [root@linux named]# ipactl stop
>> Stopping Directory Service
>> Stopping ipa-otpd Service
>> Stopping pki-tomcatd Service
>> Stopping httpd Service
>> Stopping ipa_memcached Service
>> Stopping named Service
>> Stopping kadmin Service
>> Stopping krb5kdc Service
>> ipa: INFO: The ipactl command was successful
>>    
>> [root@linux named]# systemctl start named [root@linux named]# 
>> [root@linux named]# [root@linux named]# dig 
>> dl160a.osn.cxo.cpqcorp.net
>>
>> ; <<>> DiG 9.9.4-RedHat-9.9.4-14.el7 <<>> dl160a.osn.cxo.cpqcorp.net 
>> ;; global options: +cmd ;; Got answer:
>> ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 28446 ;; flags: 
>> qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 3, ADDITIONAL: 4
>>
>> ;; OPT PSEUDOSECTION:
>> ; EDNS: version: 0, flags:; udp: 4096 ;; QUESTION SECTION:
>> ;dl160a.osn.cxo.cpqcorp.net.    IN      A
>>
>> ;; ANSWER SECTION:
>> dl160a.osn.cxo.cpqcorp.net. 43200 IN    A       16.112.240.191
>>
>> ;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
>> osn.cxo.cpqcorp.net.    43200   IN      NS      cluster.osn.cxo.cpqcorp.net.
>> osn.cxo.cpqcorp.net.    43200   IN      NS      win2008.osn.cxo.cpqcorp.net.
>> osn.cxo.cpqcorp.net.    43200   IN      NS      denali.osn.cxo.cpqcorp.net.
>>
>> ;; ADDITIONAL SECTION:
>> win2008.osn.cxo.cpqcorp.net. 43200 IN   A       16.112.240.55
>> cluster.osn.cxo.cpqcorp.net. 43200 IN   A       16.112.240.27
>> denali.osn.cxo.cpqcorp.net. 43200 IN    A       16.112.240.40
>>
>> ;; Query time: 4 msec
>> ;; SERVER: 16.112.240.59#53(16.112.240.59) ;; WHEN: Fri Oct 03
>> 11:10:54 EDT 2014 ;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 184
>>
>>
>> Thank you.
>>
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>>
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> I am not a specialist but can it be that when you run just named it uses 
> files and when you start IPA it uses LDAP database and the issue that the 
> forwarders are correctly recorded in files (manually?) but not in the LDAP 
> database?
>
> --
> Thank you,
> Dmitri Pal
>
> Sr. Engineering Manager IdM portfolio
> Red Hat, Inc.
>
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