Hello folks, On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 7:15 AM, Bernhard Miklautz <bmikla...@thinstuff.at> wrote: > first of I'm truthfully sorry how it went with xrdp. Even if I wasn't > directly involved I absolutely understand you and also think some not > really right choices were made.. Sorry for that.
I think Marc-Andre and ThinStuff need to step back and listen. Stop to tell excuses and do an analysis of state points instead to justify 'your actions' learn from the feedback. > On 10/23/2013 09:48 AM, Jay Sorg wrote: >> What do I think? >> >> I left rdesktop in Peter's control and Cendio took over. >> I left FreeRDP is your control and Thinstuff took over. > ... what do you understand by "took over"? > > Spending time on fixing bugs? > Trying to get new features in? > Spending money on improving OSS software? > Helping out users? Jay did it a lot. I did it a lot. I stopped when I noticed FreeRDP will never be usable for me. My product still uses FreeRDP 0.8+GIT (before rewrite) and it works more or less but it is stable. FreeRDP suck in this aspect. ... > Thinstuff didn't in *any* kind take over FreeRDP. To let me put this > straight Marc-Andre is the project lead and I (like any other Thinstuff Marc-Andre is very skilled but not to manage a project. FreeRDP commitment from community reduced a lot and as he realized companies are commited to their own needs and don't expend money to fix bugs which they don't care about. > employee) isn't favoured in any way when working on FreeRDP. We don't dictate > any > direction, we just regular contributors doing pull request and help on > other stuff. - For me that doesn't look like taking over? Taking over can be of many forms. I don't know all the projects done but Marc-Andre needs to ensure not only Thinstuff needs are accomplished or it ends being a 'featureness-compliance takeover'. > On the other side, it's not a secret that we do and did projects together with > Marc-André and his company. If we do projects the "by-product" is most > of the time that something that was done ends up in FreeRDP since it's a > new feature or improvement even if it's just a trivial memory leak or > fix. - Still not seeing the take over point her. > > Jay, I'm really happy and thankful that you and Marc-André started > FreeRDP but if you leave the project and not happy how it turned out > it's one thing. If you are unhappy how other things went thats the > other. On both, I really do see your point and respect this > but I also feel personally offended by public accusations that are > just not right and true. > I know all of the people at Thinstuff and they are nice and good > girls and boys and definately not with the intention, or mindset, > of "taking over" an project. > > This is just my personal opinion and has nothing todo with my employer. I participated a lot on the began of FreeRDP and it was very exciting. Currently it is not. Too bad. -- Otavio Salvador O.S. Systems http://www.ossystems.com.br http://code.ossystems.com.br Mobile: +55 (53) 9981-7854 Mobile: +1 (347) 903-9750 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ October Webinars: Code for Performance Free Intel webinars can help you accelerate application performance. Explore tips for MPI, OpenMP, advanced profiling, and more. Get the most from the latest Intel processors and coprocessors. See abstracts and register > http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=60135991&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk _______________________________________________ Freerdp-devel mailing list Freerdp-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freerdp-devel