Hi Vic, Thank you for your support, and you do summarize well the situation.
We have always been very inclusive of people's contributions and always will be. As for enjoying the new code without complaining and fixing problems which bother you, that's pretty much how this should be approached. I've had numerous conversations similar to this with developers from HP in the past until they figured out that the best way to approach this is to do exactly like Vic said: enjoy the code, fix what bothers you, we'll give you the space that you need and make sure to integrate it as much as possible. Daryl can probably tell you about that ;) You need a stable branch where you can develop on top of a non-moving target? I totally understand the need for that, and I've never been against it, that's why we have the stable branch. Luckily we have volunteers who spend time maintaining that branch to make it truly useful and frequently backport fixes from master to it. We found out through experience that using master the way it is with a separate stable branch that we can frequently backport fixes to is a lot easier than trying to use master as a stable branch. While all of this discussion is happening, there are people working on improving the state of certain features which have been discussed (serial and smartcard). Instead of complaining that they're not working, how about just working on fixing them with the others? It's funny how those developers actively working on fixing what is causing all of these complaints are not actively involved in this conversation. Maybe we should take their example, less complaining, more fixing and coding, that's how things move forward. Best regards, - Marc-Andre On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 10:56 AM, Vic Lee <llyzs....@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Jay, > > I am sorry you feel that way. I still remember when you and Marc invited > me to leave rdesktop and join FreeRDP because rdesktop was controlled by > Cendio and refused any architetural changes even they were useful or > necessary. And Marc said FreeRDP would be much more open. This has been > true until now, and I believe it will be always true in the project. I > really don't feel it has been taken over by any group of people like > Cendio in any way - anybody from anywhere are still always welcome to > contribute, I am sure Marc agrees. > > Regarding the topic: yes lack of stable release control is an issue. > Often when I merged master in order to use some new feature I would also > have all kinds of problems, but I usually just fix them myself, and > enjoy the new codes instead of complaining... Marc has made the point, > stable release control requires a lot of manpower, and it's even more > difficult for such a fast-evolving technology. > > Speaking of architetural changes, sometimes you don't see benefits of > something when you are not using it yet. I was also skeptical about > WinPR, felt it was way too much effort for little value, until when I > moved to cross-platform development I saw the idea behind and the > advantages, and even start to contribute to it. > > Let's stay a healthy community and not let such differences ruin us. I > am sure a solution will eventually come out, and we should focus on > working on solutions instead of falling apart. > > Thanks, > > Vic > > On Wednesday, October 23, 2013 03:48 PM, Jay Sorg wrote: > > When we are talking about this, you mention Thinstuff. > > > > What do I think? > > > > I left rdesktop in Peter's control and Cendio took over. > > I left FreeRDP is your control and Thinstuff took over. > > > > You need to fix this! > > > > Jay > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > October Webinars: Code for Performance > Free Intel webinars can help you accelerate application performance. > Explore tips for MPI, OpenMP, advanced profiling, and more. Get the most > from > the latest Intel processors and coprocessors. See abstracts and register > > http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=60135991&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk > _______________________________________________ > Freerdp-devel mailing list > Freerdp-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freerdp-devel > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ October Webinars: Code for Performance Free Intel webinars can help you accelerate application performance. Explore tips for MPI, OpenMP, advanced profiling, and more. Get the most from the latest Intel processors and coprocessors. See abstracts and register > http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=60135991&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk _______________________________________________ Freerdp-devel mailing list Freerdp-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freerdp-devel
