hi nick,

i really like pedro's idea of tracking through instance tracking as opposed
to licenses. on a separate project we are setting up the ability to pull up
as many instances as necessary and install whatever software environment
that's needed to run your analysis. we'll try to ensure that each person
has a license file in their "folder" that we can pull.

however given the current licensing of freesurfer, one can easily remove
the license components. that's why i feel the instance tracking is painless
and provides you with a better estimate of the number of times freesurfer
is run. as an example, at mit we have a single license which everybody uses
and that's not a great way for you to track the number of projects or
subjects run through freesurfer.

cheers,

satra

2011/11/18 Nick Schmansky <ni...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>

> Long term, after we put together an 'official' instance of the AMI with
> scripts (which might well be an instance that Pedro Paulo created) I
> think sftp'ing the .license file to each instance is the way to go.
> The .license file need only apply to the user (not each instance or
> run).
>
> N.
>
> On Fri, 2011-11-18 at 08:00 -0800, Joshua Lee wrote:
> > When I used the AMI, (maybe not Pedro's), so I sftp'd a license file
> > to each instance prior to running an analysis. Not a big deal. I
> > didn't get a new license for each instance, but copied the same one to
> > multiple instances.
> >
> > Joshua
> >
> > 2011/11/18 Pedro Paulo de Magalhães Oliveira Junior
> > <p...@netfilter.com.br>
> >         I have restored the image: 060244368407/FREESURFER51
> >
> >
> >         I'll create a web service that can log the number of instances
> >         spawned. Is that ok with you?
> >
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> >         Pedro Paulo de Magalhães Oliveira Junior
> >         Netfilter & SpeedComm Telecom
> >         -- www.netfilter.com.br
> >         -- For
> >         mobile: http://itunes.apple.com/br/artist/netfilter/id365306441
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >         2011/11/18 Bruce Fischl <fis...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>
> >                 Hi PPJ,
> >
> >                 I would rather people use FS without licenses than
> >                 find themselves unable to use it, so why not leave it
> >                 for now. Can you put a request that they first
> >                 download a license or register on your website?
> >                 Alternatively, can you just remove the .license file
> >                 from the AMI forcing the users to get one?
> >
> >                 thanks for making this available
> >                 Bruce
> >
> >
> >
> >                 On Fri, 18 Nov 2011, Pedro Paulo de Magalhães Oliveira
> >                 Junior wrote:
> >
> >
> >                         As requested I removed the AMI image because
> >                         that image contains a .license file.
> >                         I can republish the image when we find a
> >                         solution for the licensing issue.
> >
> >
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> >                         Pedro Paulo de Magalhães Oliveira Junior
> >
> >                         Netfilter & SpeedComm Telecom--
> >                         www.netfilter.com.br
> >
> >                         -- For
> >                         mobile:
> http://itunes.apple.com/br/artist/netfilter/id365306441
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >                         2011/11/15 Joshua Lee <jki...@ucdavis.edu>
> >                              It would be great if Freesurfer
> >                         maintained an official AMI. One important
> >                         reason to do so is security. If the
> >                              AMI is maintained by the organization,
> >                         then people can feel reassured that their data
> >                         is not being downloaded to
> >                              a compromised instance, not that any on
> >                         this board would have such malicious intent.
> >                         Moreover, it could contain
> >                              such scripts as makes the analysis
> >                         process easier.
> >
> >                              -
> >                         Joshua Lee
> >                         Graduate Student
> >                         Center for Mind and Brain &
> >                         Department of Psychology
> >                         University of California, Davis
> >                         530.747.3805
> >
> >
> >                         2011/11/14 Pedro Paulo de Magalhães Oliveira
> >                         Junior <p...@netfilter.com.br>
> >                              Ok. I'll label as private this AMI that
> >                         has .license file.
> >                         Maybe we can make a tutorial on how to create
> >                         an AMI instead.
> >
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> >                         Pedro Paulo de Magalhães Oliveira Junior
> >
> >                         Netfilter & SpeedComm Telecom--
> >                         www.netfilter.com.br
> >
> >                         -- For
> >                         mobile:
> http://itunes.apple.com/br/artist/netfilter/id365306441
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >                         On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 21:07, Nick Schmansky
> >                         <ni...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu> wrote:
> >                              Glad to hear it works well.  To revisit
> >                         the issue of the license (in the
> >                              form of the .license file which needs to
> >                         be in the $FREESURFER_HOME
> >                              directory and the request of which is
> >                         used for usage tracking), I think
> >                              the convention to follow for any publicly
> >                         available AMI freesurfer
> >                              instances should be to not include
> >                         a .license file with it, so as to
> >                              force the download of this file (so that
> >                         freesurfer usage will be
> >                              tracked).  A user need only do this once
> >                         for however many times they use
> >                              the cloud instance.
> >
> >                              N.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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