Hi Adrian and David,

Noting the Mumble protocol and looking for a server, I found uMurmur on github

and tried to compile it on my Fedora 29 x86_64 here but am lost in cmake finding

the SDL library.

To make a cross band codec2 to FM repeater, can you give a quick run down

using your software?

Alan VK2ZIW

On Thu, 17 Oct 2019 22:44:01 +0300, Adrian Musceac wrote
> Hi David,
> 
> Wow Adrian it's really coming along quickly!  Well done :-)  Combined
> with the latest crop of duplex SDRs, I can see this work opening up
> experimentation in the VHF/UHF bands.
> 
> 
> Thanks! I've been working full time on this in the last month due to a break 
> at work that might end pretty soon.
> I'm aiming at VHF to SHF work, small, portable and field configurable 
> repeaters (check out the LimeNet-micro and LimeRFE)
> and satellite ops. The IP radio modem in qradiolink might also help point to 
> point IP link connectivity at low bandwidths but it needs more improvement.
> 
> HF is not out of the question but due to QTH conditions can't really use it.
> Telemetry modems (even direct sequence spread spectrum for very low bitrates, 
> like LoRa) and multi-channel repeaters are the next stop
> (after release 1.0).
> 
>  Some thoughts:
> 
> 1/ Codec 2 2400A and 2400B were designed to work on VHF/UHF, and 2400A
> to substantially outperform FM and current digital voice systems at low
> SNRs:
> 
>   http://www.rowetel.com/wordpress/?p=5219
> 
> They're in the FreeDV API already
> 
> 
> I'll add 2400A for sure. I don't really see a reason to use 2400B with SDRs. 
> Maybe for testing purposes only with the FM modulator.
> 
> But right now my plate is pretty full trying to test everything already in 
> and do some packaging.
> The 700D modem segfaults in the LDPC encoder with the version of libcodec2 in 
> Debian stable and I didn't even have time to raise a bug with them.
> But I'll add it as well once that's figured out. By the way, can I suggest 
> for libcodec2 Git tags for stable releases? I could not find any tags in 
> Github and they would be pretty useful as landmarks.
> 
>  2/ Have you done any BER versus SNR (Eb/No) tests to evaluate the
> performance of the modems you are using, e.g. comparing performance to
> theoretical?  We have found many existing VHF/UHF digital voice systems
> have modems that perform poorly.  Gains of 10dB are possible with the
> right modem/waveform design.
> 
> 
> Yes. All tests are good. My custom modems are nothing original, they are 
> based on the knowledge of the GNU radio community, especially Daniel Estevez 
> and Marcus Mueller but also others.
> 
> Some problems occur with some modems like the DQPSK written by me used with 
> both Opus and Codec2
> due to some implementation misconfigures. The Doppler correction used for 
> them tends to interact badly with the rest.
> I'll fix that eventually.
> 
> But the FreeDV modems work very well. All numbers check out exactly as you 
> described in your website.
> 
>  3/ RpiTx would be an interesting option for the TX side:
> 
>   https://github.com/F5OEO/rpitx
> 
> 
> RPiTx is a work of art, but it has some annoyances. It requires a PGA in 
> front to set the output power (some amplifiers
> drive from below 0 dBm). The signals are not exactly clean, but the main 
> downside is the limited frequency range.
> I do SHF (2.4 GHz and 5 GHz) with the PlutoSDR. Options to go all the way up 
> to 10 GHz with some other MyriadRF hardware.
> 
> There's the https://osmocom.org/projects/osmo-fl2k/wiki project which gives 
> you a very cheap SDR transmitter as well but with the same limitations.
> 
> Best regards,
> Adrian
> 
>  Cheers,
> David
> 
> On 17/10/19 10:30 pm, Adrian Musceac wrote:
> > Hi,
> > I made some more progress working on my application[1].
> > First of all, it is now possible to run it headless (maybe even
> > daemonized) and control it remotely using a telnet client.
> > Second, I have added support for mixed mode repeater (Codec2/FM or
> > viceversa or any combination of modes like wideband
> > Opus/Codec2/FreeDV/SSB etc.).
> > 
> > The repeater can be connected to a VOIP server using the low latency
> > Mumble voice protocol (known especially for high-performance gaming). So
> > it is possible now to connect multiple repeaters together by putting
> > them on the same VOIP channel (this can be controlled via telnet as
> > well, although it's stil work in progress). They operate in full duplex
> > mode, so a VOIP user can talk at the same time as a radio user and the
> > two audio streams will be mixed together and broadcast. The
> > FreeDV/Codec2 radio frames are transcoded to Opus at very high bitrates
> > (~48 kbit/s) for VOIP transport. This may cause some small delays.
> > 
> > I haven't really had time to test the cross-mode repeater so could use
> > some help there from interested parties.
> > 
> > [1] http://qradiolink.org
> > 
> > Cheers,
> > Adrian
> > 
> > 
> > 
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