Hi Adrian,

Your "umurmur" requires package PolarSSL. This is superseded by Mbed TLS.

But all the function names are different.

Not easy.

Alan VK2ZIW

On Sun, 20 Oct 2019 16:57:58 +0300, Adrian Musceac wrote
> Alan,
> 
> Use this version of umurmur: https://github.com/qradiolink/umurmur
> It is slightly older but verified to work with qradiolink. The Murmur server 
> is more complicated and has some compatibility issues that I didn't solve yet.
> If you use the headless remote interface, you will need to set everything up 
> for repeater mode either in the settings file before starting the program, or 
> via telnet commands (squelch, volume, tx and rx gain, tx shift, VOIP gain, 
> duplex mode, frequency, CTCSS, etc). Then, you only need to issue "start_trx" 
> and "setrepeater 1". If you have two computers and want to link two 
> repeaters, you will need two full duplex SDRs like the PlutoSDR or 
> LimeSDR-mini to work in repeater mode. The HackRF is not full duplex. If you 
> don't want them as repeaters but simply radios linked by VOIP, then you can 
> use HackRFs just fine but make sure not to enable duplex mode in qradiolink.
> For repeater mode, you can have an RTL-SDR for receiving and a HackRF for 
> transmitting and a single qradiolink instance on a single computer configured 
> to use both. I don't have a HackRF so I was not able to test it. I'm curious 
> whether it works well, please let me know.
> If you use non-linear amplifiers with the HackRF, there are two 2FSK modes 
> which support both Codec2 (2FSK-2K) and Opus (2FSK-10K), as well as 800XA. 
> 2400A is not yet added.
> 
> Cheers,
> Adrian
> 
> On Sun, Oct 20, 2019 at 4:22 PM Al Beard <bear...@unixservice.com.au> wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi Adrian,
> 
> 
> Yes, I was thinking of split sites, a computer at each end
> 
> 
> I'll investigate mumble and murmur as they are standard packages on the 
> Fedora 29 here.
> 
> 
> Alan VK2ZIW
> 
> On Sun, 20 Oct 2019 11:22:20 +0000, Adrian Musceac wrote
> > Alan,
> > 
> > If you only want a cross-band repeater you don't need umurmur. That is for 
> > connecting repeaters or radios over the internet. Just enable TX and RX in 
> > qradiolink, set the TX shift in kHz and then enable the repeater. You can 
> > use two separate devices in qradiolink.
> > 
> > Adrian
> > 
> > On October 20, 2019 8:23:31 AM UTC, Al Beard <bear...@unixservice.com.au> 
> > wrote:Hi Adrian and David,
> > 
> > 
> > Noting the Mumble protocol and looking for a server, I found uMurmur on 
> > github
> > and tried to compile it on my Fedora 29 x86_64 here but am lost in cmake 
> > finding
> > the SDL library.
> > 
> > 
> > To make a cross band codec2 to FM repeater, can you give a quick run down
> > using your software?
> > 
> > 
> > Alan VK2ZIW
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > On Thu, 17 Oct 2019 22:44:01 +0300, Adrian Musceac wrote
> > > Hi David,
> > > 
> > > Wow Adrian it's really coming along quickly!  Well done :-)  Combined
> > > with the latest crop of duplex SDRs, I can see this work opening up
> > > experimentation in the VHF/UHF bands.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Thanks! I've been working full time on this in the last month due to a 
> > > break at work that might end pretty soon.
> > > I'm aiming at VHF to SHF work, small, portable and field configurable 
> > > repeaters (check out the LimeNet-micro and LimeRFE)
> > > and satellite ops. The IP radio modem in qradiolink might also help point 
> > > to point IP link connectivity at low bandwidths but it needs more 
> > > improvement.
> > > 
> > > HF is not out of the question but due to QTH conditions can't really use 
> > > it.
> > > Telemetry modems (even direct sequence spread spectrum for very low 
> > > bitrates, like LoRa) and multi-channel repeaters are the next stop
> > > (after release 1.0).
> > > 
> > >  Some thoughts:
> > > 
> > > 1/ Codec 2 2400A and 2400B were designed to work on VHF/UHF, and 2400A
> > > to substantially outperform FM and current digital voice systems at low
> > > SNRs:
> > > 
> > >   http://www.rowetel.com/wordpress/?p=5219
> > > 
> > > They're in the FreeDV API already
> > > 
> > > 
> > > I'll add 2400A for sure. I don't really see a reason to use 2400B with 
> > > SDRs. Maybe for testing purposes only with the FM modulator.
> > > 
> > > But right now my plate is pretty full trying to test everything already 
> > > in and do some packaging.
> > > The 700D modem segfaults in the LDPC encoder with the version of 
> > > libcodec2 in Debian stable and I didn't even have time to raise a bug 
> > > with them.
> > > But I'll add it as well once that's figured out. By the way, can I 
> > > suggest for libcodec2 Git tags for stable releases? I could not find any 
> > > tags in Github and they would be pretty useful as landmarks.
> > > 
> > >  2/ Have you done any BER versus SNR (Eb/No) tests to evaluate the
> > > performance of the modems you are using, e.g. comparing performance to
> > > theoretical?  We have found many existing VHF/UHF digital voice systems
> > > have modems that perform poorly.  Gains of 10dB are possible with the
> > > right modem/waveform design.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Yes. All tests are good. My custom modems are nothing original, they are 
> > > based on the knowledge of the GNU radio community, especially Daniel 
> > > Estevez and Marcus Mueller but also others.
> > > 
> > > Some problems occur with some modems like the DQPSK written by me used 
> > > with both Opus and Codec2
> > > due to some implementation misconfigures. The Doppler correction used for 
> > > them tends to interact badly with the rest.
> > > I'll fix that eventually.
> > > 
> > > But the FreeDV modems work very well. All numbers check out exactly as 
> > > you described in your website.
> > > 
> > >  3/ RpiTx would be an interesting option for the TX side:
> > > 
> > >   https://github.com/F5OEO/rpitx
> > > 
> > > 
> > > RPiTx is a work of art, but it has some annoyances. It requires a PGA in 
> > > front to set the output power (some amplifiers
> > > drive from below 0 dBm). The signals are not exactly clean, but the main 
> > > downside is the limited frequency range.
> > > I do SHF (2.4 GHz and 5 GHz) with the PlutoSDR. Options to go all the way 
> > > up to 10 GHz with some other MyriadRF hardware.
> > > 
> > > There's the https://osmocom.org/projects/osmo-fl2k/wiki project which 
> > > gives you a very cheap SDR transmitter as well but with the same 
> > > limitations.
> > > 
> > > Best regards,
> > > Adrian
> > > 
> > >  Cheers,
> > > David
> > > 
> > > On 17/10/19 10:30 pm, Adrian Musceac wrote:
> > > > Hi,
> > > > I made some more progress working on my application[1].
> > > > First of all, it is now possible to run it headless (maybe even
> > > > daemonized) and control it remotely using a telnet client.
> > > > Second, I have added support for mixed mode repeater (Codec2/FM or
> > > > viceversa or any combination of modes like wideband
> > > > Opus/Codec2/FreeDV/SSB etc.).
> > > > 
> > > > The repeater can be connected to a VOIP server using the low latency
> > > > Mumble voice protocol (known especially for high-performance gaming). So
> > > > it is possible now to connect multiple repeaters together by putting
> > > > them on the same VOIP channel (this can be controlled via telnet as
> > > > well, although it's stil work in progress). They operate in full duplex
> > > > mode, so a VOIP user can talk at the same time as a radio user and the
> > > > two audio streams will be mixed together and broadcast. The
> > > > FreeDV/Codec2 radio frames are transcoded to Opus at very high bitrates
> > > > (~48 kbit/s) for VOIP transport. This may cause some small delays.
> > > > 
> > > > I haven't really had time to test the cross-mode repeater so could use
> > > > some help there from interested parties.
> > > > 
> > > > [1] http://qradiolink.org
> > > > 
> > > > Cheers,
> > > > Adrian
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
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