Alan,

If you only want a cross-band repeater you don't need umurmur. That is for 
connecting repeaters or radios over the internet. Just enable TX and RX in 
qradiolink, set the TX shift in kHz and then enable the repeater. You can use 
two separate devices in qradiolink.

Adrian

On October 20, 2019 8:23:31 AM UTC, Al Beard <bear...@unixservice.com.au> wrote:
>Hi Adrian and David,
>
>Noting the Mumble protocol and looking for a server, I found uMurmur on
>github
>
>and tried to compile it on my Fedora 29 x86_64 here but am lost in
>cmake finding
>
>the SDL library.
>
>To make a cross band codec2 to FM repeater, can you give a quick run
>down
>
>using your software?
>
>Alan VK2ZIW
>
>On Thu, 17 Oct 2019 22:44:01 +0300, Adrian Musceac wrote
>> Hi David,
>> 
>> Wow Adrian it's really coming along quickly!  Well done :-)  Combined
>> with the latest crop of duplex SDRs, I can see this work opening up
>> experimentation in the VHF/UHF bands.
>> 
>> 
>> Thanks! I've been working full time on this in the last month due to
>a break at work that might end pretty soon.
>> I'm aiming at VHF to SHF work, small, portable and field configurable
>repeaters (check out the LimeNet-micro and LimeRFE)
>> and satellite ops. The IP radio modem in qradiolink might also help
>point to point IP link connectivity at low bandwidths but it needs more
>improvement.
>> 
>> HF is not out of the question but due to QTH conditions can't really
>use it.
>> Telemetry modems (even direct sequence spread spectrum for very low
>bitrates, like LoRa) and multi-channel repeaters are the next stop
>> (after release 1.0).
>> 
>>  Some thoughts:
>> 
>> 1/ Codec 2 2400A and 2400B were designed to work on VHF/UHF, and
>2400A
>> to substantially outperform FM and current digital voice systems at
>low
>> SNRs:
>> 
>>   http://www.rowetel.com/wordpress/?p=5219
>> 
>> They're in the FreeDV API already
>> 
>> 
>> I'll add 2400A for sure. I don't really see a reason to use 2400B
>with SDRs. Maybe for testing purposes only with the FM modulator.
>> 
>> But right now my plate is pretty full trying to test everything
>already in and do some packaging.
>> The 700D modem segfaults in the LDPC encoder with the version of
>libcodec2 in Debian stable and I didn't even have time to raise a bug
>with them.
>> But I'll add it as well once that's figured out. By the way, can I
>suggest for libcodec2 Git tags for stable releases? I could not find
>any tags in Github and they would be pretty useful as landmarks.
>> 
>>  2/ Have you done any BER versus SNR (Eb/No) tests to evaluate the
>> performance of the modems you are using, e.g. comparing performance
>to
>> theoretical?  We have found many existing VHF/UHF digital voice
>systems
>> have modems that perform poorly.  Gains of 10dB are possible with the
>> right modem/waveform design.
>> 
>> 
>> Yes. All tests are good. My custom modems are nothing original, they
>are based on the knowledge of the GNU radio community, especially
>Daniel Estevez and Marcus Mueller but also others.
>> 
>> Some problems occur with some modems like the DQPSK written by me
>used with both Opus and Codec2
>> due to some implementation misconfigures. The Doppler correction used
>for them tends to interact badly with the rest.
>> I'll fix that eventually.
>> 
>> But the FreeDV modems work very well. All numbers check out exactly
>as you described in your website.
>> 
>>  3/ RpiTx would be an interesting option for the TX side:
>> 
>>   https://github.com/F5OEO/rpitx
>> 
>> 
>> RPiTx is a work of art, but it has some annoyances. It requires a PGA
>in front to set the output power (some amplifiers
>> drive from below 0 dBm). The signals are not exactly clean, but the
>main downside is the limited frequency range.
>> I do SHF (2.4 GHz and 5 GHz) with the PlutoSDR. Options to go all the
>way up to 10 GHz with some other MyriadRF hardware.
>> 
>> There's the https://osmocom.org/projects/osmo-fl2k/wiki project which
>gives you a very cheap SDR transmitter as well but with the same
>limitations.
>> 
>> Best regards,
>> Adrian
>> 
>>  Cheers,
>> David
>> 
>> On 17/10/19 10:30 pm, Adrian Musceac wrote:
>> > Hi,
>> > I made some more progress working on my application[1].
>> > First of all, it is now possible to run it headless (maybe even
>> > daemonized) and control it remotely using a telnet client.
>> > Second, I have added support for mixed mode repeater (Codec2/FM or
>> > viceversa or any combination of modes like wideband
>> > Opus/Codec2/FreeDV/SSB etc.).
>> > 
>> > The repeater can be connected to a VOIP server using the low
>latency
>> > Mumble voice protocol (known especially for high-performance
>gaming). So
>> > it is possible now to connect multiple repeaters together by
>putting
>> > them on the same VOIP channel (this can be controlled via telnet as
>> > well, although it's stil work in progress). They operate in full
>duplex
>> > mode, so a VOIP user can talk at the same time as a radio user and
>the
>> > two audio streams will be mixed together and broadcast. The
>> > FreeDV/Codec2 radio frames are transcoded to Opus at very high
>bitrates
>> > (~48 kbit/s) for VOIP transport. This may cause some small delays.
>> > 
>> > I haven't really had time to test the cross-mode repeater so could
>use
>> > some help there from interested parties.
>> > 
>> > [1] http://qradiolink.org
>> > 
>> > Cheers,
>> > Adrian
>> > 
>> > 
>> > 
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