Afternoon,
I personally can think of a hell of a lot of advantages over Windows clients,
vs PHP web based management scripts.
as you may know there are a lot of PC's out there running Windows, and having
a native client makes a lot of sense.
I take it you have head of ICQ or perhaps AOL instant messanger, Yahoo
Messanger, I'm sure the list goes on.
Let me put it to you that AOL/ICQ/Yahoo (yadda yadda) where all PHP based,
and ran off the web, well frankly I dont think as many people would be using
them.
The whole aspect of using a web based interface is just yucky to me, I want a
client that is on my desktop, at the ready when I need it, everyone knows
URL's are just nasty, and http://www.hostserver.com/admin/ is nothing like
the convenience of being able to double click an icon.
I'll draw another comparson,
Web based mail vs POP mail (or imap etc) - there is a lot of use of Web based
mail granted, but it will never beat the conveniance of having a email
client, being able to drag and drop, send files in the middle of the night,
at times you want, offline reading and etc.
Anyhow I'm getting offtopic, basicly I believe in the Windows support tools,
and think that is what people (ie: the end user) want, and can see the
infanite possibilities of having a client on your desktop.
Web based managment is just not conveniant enough for the customers or end
users these days, and thats what its about... the end user, and keeping them
happy - and making it easy for joe-average to control a complex system without
having to know anything other than how to double click the Idaya icon. =>
And finally, I believe the price is a bargan, twice the price would still be
a steal.
We have to pay our overheads somehow, I gave up working for love years ago,
along with a lot of other people in this industry.
Cheers,
Nigel "thank god I dont use Webmail anymore" Marett.
On Friday 01 June 2001 2:46 pm, you wrote:
> Hello, all,
>
> I am sorry if my previous post upset any of you, esp the developers. My
> original meaning was a bit different than I wrote with my bad english.
>
> I am very appreciate with this piece of wonder FreeVSD. And thats why i am
> here to continue to express myself and get involved.
>
> But its no doubt that both the FreeVSD server and the clients are still
> containing lots of bugs and the manuals or documentations are very doggy.
>
> So I feel the VSDclient is not up to the price it quote. and I also prefer
> the WebAdmin PHP scripts than the MSucks windows client. I am happy to pay
> for the WebAdmin, but not for the windows client. I just do not understand
> why they develop windows client in proirty higher than the WebAdmin while
> it is obvious that the PHP scripts are very useful to most of us and theere
> is no obvious advantage of using windows clients over webadmin scripts in
> VS management.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "Kevin Druet" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 07:38:19 -0500
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Ridiculous pricing
>
> > Cost ?,,, well its about time some one makes a little money,,..
> >
> > Hi everyone, I have been quite bizzy for a the last few months, it
> > seems that we have aquired a few bread and butter accounts that require
> > alot of "hand holding" I still try and read the list emails, and this
> > morning I see somthing about someone who is not happy with the cost of
> > FreeVSD. I feel that it is our God give right to complain, and im sure
> > we all do, I know that if we had spent a year or more
> > creating/developing GPL / OSS Software, that we would want to recoup
> > that cost quickly.
> >
> > My Hat is off to those who get paid for what they do, its only fare.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Kevin Druet
> > CIO CA Linux Systems
> >
> > > <Nods in agreement>
> > >
> > > --
> > > Ben Kennish
> > >
> > > e: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > w: www.fubra.com
> > >
> > > Joe Cooper wrote:
> > > > Simple solution for you: Don't buy it.
> > > >
> > > > Unless you helped write the software, you have no say in what it
> >
> > sells for.
> >
> > > > The FreeVSD guys have done a lot of cool things for free...if they
> >
> > want
> >
> > > > to charge for some of the things they do, you or I shouldn't
> >
> > begrudge
> >
> > > > them that. I have no plans to use anything that isn't Open Source
> >
> > in my
> >
> > > > products, but no one but me has an obligation to make sure that I
> >
> > have
> >
> > > > all the tools I need.
> > > >
> > > > I find it offensive when anyone attacks a mostly free software
> >
> > company
> >
> > > > for creating a few non-free tools. Interestingly, when a
> >
> > proprietary
> >
> > > > software company opens a few of their tools, they are praised far
> >
> > and
> >
> > > > wide...but when the reverse happens, the community acts as if
> >
> > they've
> >
> > > > been betrayed.
> > > >
> > > > So...Unless you're writing an alternative, /right now/, and plan to
> > > > release it under the GPL or other OSS license, then you have no
> >
> > business
> >
> > > > complaining (even then, it's probably in bad form to complain).
> > > >
> > > > The phrase "looking a gift horse in the mouth" springs to
> >
> > mind...Sheesh.
> >
> > > > Free VSD wrote:
> > > > > Dear experts,
> > > > >
> > > > > I feel the pricing of VSDclient and VSDcontrol is simply
> >
> > ridiculous,
> >
> > > > > esp when both freeVSD and possibly the software is still bug
> > > > > ridden.
> > > > >
> > > > > Please any of you make the PHP WebAdmin scripts work better and
> > > > > forget about the clients. I'll make a stature for you! :-)
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Joe Cooper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > Affordable Web Caching Proxy Appliances
> > > > <A HREF="http://www.swelltech.com";
> > > > TARGET="_new"><FONT COLOR="BLUE">http://www.swelltech.com</FONT></A>
> >
> > --
> > Ca Linux Systems.
> > <A HREF="http://www.calinuxsystems.com"; TARGET="_new"><FONT
> > COLOR="BLUE">http://www.calinuxsystems.com</FONT></A>
