Your points are very reasonable (especially wrt documentation, I can only
say we are trying hard to keep it at a pace with development..). Obviously,
not everyone is going to agree with our decision to prioritise our
commercial GUI development work at Windows, but that is the commercial
decision we have taken. We still recognise that a web-based interface will
probably always be preferred by some users and do not intend to abandon
them. There must be some PHP gurus out there, so please step forward and we
will work with you in improving the WebAdmin package.
Many people will not get past their initial reservations about Microsoft in
general but with the work we are doing to allow the secure delegation of
control over domains, web-content, and email, it will soon be possible to
put a simple Windows application on individual users desktops and provide
them with unprecedented control and flexibility to manage their
email/auto-responding/forwarding/web-presence through their companies Linux
hosted servers...
Linux is quickly becoming the platform that powers the internet, but to put
empower users with greater control over their presence on the internet a
Windows GUI which integrates with their desktop and office applications
offers a host of advantages over any web-based equivalent....
Anyway, you can quite rightly consider me less then impartial. So, for
anyone who wants to see the new VSDClient tool in action and form their own
opinion, pop along to www.idaya.com, register, and download VSDClient-lite.
We are setting up demonstration servers to which you can connect and
instantly try the package out. As these demoservers are not yet subscribable
through the web-site drop a line to Mark (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) and he
can allocate you a virtual server which you can try out today.
Let me know if you think your end-users would still prefer a web-based
solution...
Tim
(sound of gauntlet being thrown down...)
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Free VSD
> Sent: 01 June 2001 14:46
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Ridiculous pricing
>
>
> Hello, all,
>
> I am sorry if my previous post upset any of you, esp the
> developers. My original meaning was a bit different than I wrote
> with my bad english.
>
> I am very appreciate with this piece of wonder FreeVSD. And thats
> why i am here to continue to express myself and get involved.
>
> But its no doubt that both the FreeVSD server and the clients are
> still containing lots of bugs and the manuals or documentations
> are very doggy.
>
> So I feel the VSDclient is not up to the price it quote. and I
> also prefer the WebAdmin PHP scripts than the MSucks windows
> client. I am happy to pay for the WebAdmin, but not for the
> windows client. I just do not understand why they develop windows
> client in proirty higher than the WebAdmin while it is obvious
> that the PHP scripts are very useful to most of us and theere is
> no obvious advantage of using windows clients over webadmin
> scripts in VS management.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "Kevin Druet" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 07:38:19 -0500
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Ridiculous pricing
>
>
> > Cost ?,,, well its about time some one makes a little money,,..
> >
> > Hi everyone, I have been quite bizzy for a the last few months, it
> > seems that we have aquired a few bread and butter accounts that require
> > alot of "hand holding" I still try and read the list emails, and this
> > morning I see somthing about someone who is not happy with the cost of
> > FreeVSD. I feel that it is our God give right to complain, and im sure
> > we all do, I know that if we had spent a year or more
> > creating/developing GPL / OSS Software, that we would want to recoup
> > that cost quickly.
> >
> > My Hat is off to those who get paid for what they do, its only fare.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Kevin Druet
> > CIO CA Linux Systems
> >
> > > <Nods in agreement>
> > >
> > > --
> > > Ben Kennish
> > >
> > > e: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > w: www.fubra.com
> > >
> > >
> > > Joe Cooper wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Simple solution for you: Don't buy it.
> > > >
> > > > Unless you helped write the software, you have no say in what it
> > sells for.
> > > >
> > > > The FreeVSD guys have done a lot of cool things for free...if they
> > want
> > > > to charge for some of the things they do, you or I shouldn't
> > begrudge
> > > > them that. I have no plans to use anything that isn't Open Source
> > in my
> > > > products, but no one but me has an obligation to make sure that I
> > have
> > > > all the tools I need.
> > > >
> > > > I find it offensive when anyone attacks a mostly free software
> > company
> > > > for creating a few non-free tools. Interestingly, when a
> > proprietary
> > > > software company opens a few of their tools, they are praised far
> > and
> > > > wide...but when the reverse happens, the community acts as if
> > they've
> > > > been betrayed.
> > > >
> > > > So...Unless you're writing an alternative, /right now/, and plan to
> > > > release it under the GPL or other OSS license, then you have no
> > business
> > > > complaining (even then, it's probably in bad form to complain).
> > > >
> > > > The phrase "looking a gift horse in the mouth" springs to
> > mind...Sheesh.
> > > >
> > > > Free VSD wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Dear experts,
> > > > >
> > > > > I feel the pricing of VSDclient and VSDcontrol is simply
> > ridiculous,
> > > > > esp when both freeVSD and possibly the software is still bug
> > > > > ridden.
> > > > >
> > > > > Please any of you make the PHP WebAdmin scripts work better and
> > > > > forget about the clients. I'll make a stature for you! :-)
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Joe Cooper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > Affordable Web Caching Proxy Appliances
> > > > <A
> HREF="http://www.swelltech.com"; TARGET="_new"><FONT
> COLOR="BLUE">http://www.swelltech.com</FONT></A>
> > >
> > >
> >
> > --
> > Ca Linux Systems.
> > <A HREF="http://www.calinuxsystems.com"; TARGET="_new"><FONT
> COLOR="BLUE">http://www.calinuxsystems.com</FONT></A>
> >
>
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