> > > FreeVSD is *still* Free Software. It *always* will be. > > As has been said several times already, get a CVS client and download > the sources using the anonymous account.
This says it all really I don't see what everyone is moaning about like Nick says FreeVSD is very much Free and *always* will be but if Idaya don't want to make it easy for people to get the software on RPM then that is their choice and I would say probably fairly sensible considering they are launching a commercial product. If anyone really feels so strongly about loosing their RPMs then why not get the CVS and make an RPM for everyone to download off you; after all it is open source and Idaya aren't under any obligation to do everything for you but you have the chance to help the FreeVSD community by doing this. > > To my knowledge virtually all submissions by users on this list have not > been accepted into the source tree. Probably because the copyright > issues haven't been sorted out. > I think that this is a sad fact and really does show at the end of the day that a lot of people want the moon on a stick someone makes a patch and then doesn't want to release it for fear that someone might make money off their hard work. > > Even with casual scan through the history of this list, you can attribute > more questions to setting up Apache, PHP, MySQL or Postgres, or some IRC > bot or some other crap like that than there is anything about FreeVSD > itself ! > True we were hoping to sort some of this out with Ben's FAQ (http://www.fubra.com/vsdfaq/) and I think the questions have been more FreeVSD orientated or at least less common since we published it. But this is no substitute for the FreeVSD documentation we are working on and I think it is true that until there is more info about the inner workings of FreeVSD but at the end of the day it is not Idaya's fault there is no proper documentation and the scripts seem well commented from what I have seen anyway. Also we will continue to work on this documentation for the benefit of the community and we know that when we release it we will disadvantage ourselves by making it easy for competitors or our commercial venture (www.hoston.it) to pop up all over the place but we feel that this contribution will help FreeVSD to grow and with the amount of ground work that has already been done mostly by Idaya we think this contribution is hardly anything in the scope of things but we believe in open source and we hope that by making it some other people will start using FreeVSD and will contribute a similar offering that we can benefit from commercially just as they may have benefited from our docs. > > > As a hosting company, we've studied the software and found > > it to be insufficient in terms of reliability. So we want > guarantees that it will be > > made more reliable. > > Well why should anybody guarantee this ? It's Free Software and it comes > with "NO MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR PURPOSE". > True > > > With ProVSD, we don't have any control over the source code. > > And I simply refuse to make FreeVSD more reliable, as you can > simply look at my code and > > rewrite it into ProVSD (you don't have to copy-paste code to > actually use someone else's > > code). > Essentially you are saying here is that you want to keep your patches away from the community so that Idaya (a large part of the FreeVSD community) can't make money off you (If they decided to use your patches in ProVSD). I am glad Idaya (the Major "Contributors") don't take such a petty attitude or most of the features we have in FreeVSD wouldn't be there just in case you came along and actually used the parts they have written commercially or otherwise. In fact (and this is coming from someone who doesn't know all the rules about open source software and what is right or wrong in the eyes of the FSF) your position seems nonsensical, please tell me if I am wrong but regardless of the rules I think my underlying principal is right. Brendan ------------------------- The freeVSD Support List -------------------------- Subscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?body=subscribe%20freevsd-support Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?body=unsubscribe%20freevsd-support Archives: http://freevsd.org/support/mail-archives/freevsd-support -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
