I thought the whole point of open source was "for the people".

I can use the netsaint comunity as an example.  Their software has totally
decrease my work and customer support problems.  I don't pay a dime.  The
list is filled with friendly folk.  I have yet to see this get disrupted.  I
always try my best to help the community of netsaint users.  An exemplary
display of great minds helping each other.

Think of these:
Java
Everything GNU
mailman
majordomo
apache
qmail
sendmail
bind
PERL
I can go on and on ...

They make the web great.  It would be so sad if the web server was all MS
and their sh**y products.  I have nothing agains idaya, I found them to be
friendly, but I'm getting the impression that freeVSD will no longer be open
source in the near future.  That is too bad.  In that case I'll stick with
sphera and ensim.

I hope there is an open source alternative for multi-plexed OSs.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Brendan McLoughlin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2001 10:23 AM
Subject: ProVSD


> I thought the whole point of open source was so that a company could come
> along and get access to a well developed application free of cost and
modify
> it for commercial exploitation. It seems to me that Idaya are, doing just
> that, commercially exploiting the FreeVSD code to make ProVSD which I
> imagine is entirely different software.
>
> I hope no one will start moaning at us when we launch our hosting service
> that uses FreeVSD extensively because we are not sharing some of the
> proprietary parts of the system which we have written with everyone.
>
> I think one of the best things about open source is that you can't just
pay
> the highest price to have the best use of it and that instead you have to
> work very hard to develop it and if you are nice you share your
developments
> with the community. That way all the contributors can sell good products
> based around a solid core project.
>
> I don't have much idea about how the GPL licensing works because I haven't
> read much in to it but at the end of the day Idaya seem to have written
> pretty much all of code in the core application (looking in the CVS update
> log) and quite why they are being slated for all this work seems a bit
> strange. They don't have any obligation to provide a new RPM for people as
> soon as it is released and at the moment if I were then with the mood on
> this list I would be thinking twice about why they should provide it.
>
> Anyway I would like to say thank you to Nick, everyone at Idaya and also
> everyone else who has contributed to FreeVSD and hope that from now on
> everyone can do less moaning and more contributing to the development then
> we will all benefit.
>
> Next year we hope to make our first real contribution in the shape of a
> comprehensive user manual and developers documentation to help fuel
interest
> in developing it also I will take this opportunity to let everyone know I
am
> doing the cat for FreeVSD in the ODP to promote awareness and if any
hosting
> companies want to be listed or if any one thinks their site fits please
> submit it the URL is
> http://dmoz.org/Computers/Software/Internet/Servers/FreeVSD/
>
> Also if you don't like Idaya's products then you do have another option
you
> can either buy theirs or use FreeVSD and make your own add-ons to bring it
> up to scratch. As long as they provide CVS to help the development I think
> they are well within their rights and I am very grateful for them
providing
> CVS access for this project and for all the development.
>
> Brendan
> www.hoston.it
>
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