James, 

Your explanation is in terms of the arrangement of the parts... arrangement
and connection, if you will.  Am I correct?  

Would you characterize that explanation as a reductive one?   This is not a
trick question.  I genuinely want to know.  

And  should one speak of downward causation here?  Is triangularity CAUSING
immobility of the joints? 

Nick 

Nicholas S. Thompson
Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Ethology, 
Clark University ([email protected])
http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/




> [Original Message]
> From: James Steiner <[email protected]>
> To: <[email protected]>
> Date: 6/7/2009 8:40:24 AM
> Subject: Re: [FRIAM] quick question
>
> Its an application of basic geometry.
>
> If the struts of the triangle are made of materials that do not
> stretch, compress, or flex (outside of acceptable parameters for the
> construction in question), then the triangle is *stable*--even if the
> joints are frictionless pivots. This is essentially because the struts
> hold their opposing joints at fixed angles--something no other 2d
> arrangement does.
>
> So, I guess you could say that the stability of a triangle is an
> emergent property of the geometry.
>
> Then again, I"m not a wise man.
>
> ~~James
>
>
> On Sat, Jun 6, 2009 at 11:57 PM, Nicholas
> Thompson<[email protected]> wrote:
> > On a recent friday, as part of my worrying about emergence, I was
trying to
> > find out what sort of language wise people use when they explain the
greater
> > resistance of triangles to compression.   it seemed to me that  that
example
> > provided all the complexity we needed for a thorough-going discussion of
> > emergence.  So if I could learn  how wise people talked about it,
perhaps I
> > could learn how to talk about emergence in general.
> >
> > In what field, I wonder, do they discuss the greater strength of some
> > configurations of members vis -a vis others.  SOMEBODY offered me the
answer
> > to that question, but I have forgotten what the answer was.  Some sort
of
> > mechanics .... elementary?  Can anybody remember or provide the
information
> > again?  Why are triangles strong?
> >
> >
> > Nick
>
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