Bad keyboard. Go to yer room.
So what criteria or descriptors would you use to identify 'true'
emergence?
Tory
On Jun 9, 2009, at 4:11 PM, Nick Thompson wrote:
I suppose that if, one were to show resistance to compression by
number of sides of an open polygon one would show a non linear
function. I have never been thrilled by the linearity criterion
because transformation can usually get rid of it. So something that
is emergent on a ordinary plot becomes non-emergent on a log plot.
Sorry again to be so short; no disrespect, just hatred for the
keyboard I am working on.
N
-----Original Message-----
From: Victoria Hughes <[email protected]>
Sent: Jun 8, 2009 12:26 PM
To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <[email protected]
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Subject: Re: [FRIAM] quick question
Re ongoing conversations about emergent phenomena:
for the purposes of discussions here+the discuss list:
Is 'non-linearity' an acceptable descriptor?
And out of curiousity how would you plot a linear progression of
attributes that includes 'triangleness'? What elements would you be
graphing?
Tory
On Jun 7, 2009, at 10:25 AM, Steve Smith wrote:
Nick -
But surely we cannot reduce the strength of a triangle to the
strength of its parts because the strength of a triangle depends on
the ARRANGEMENT of those parts. And arrangement is not a property
of any of the parts.
after my missive on Tolerancing and my claim that "Emergence"
requires "nonlinearity", I have to take a pause and accept that you
may be correct that the example of a triangle and it's strength
might be described as emergent.
I hope that a "wise person" will weigh in here. I have to admit to
being left wavering and curious on this one.
Good question Nick.
- Steve
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