Nobody else will ask. [grin]  Everyone knows I'm a wacko; so rational
people steer clear.  Your strength is your ability to wade into the
irrational. ;-)

Anyway, what's to expand?  We have a list of recommended literature.
I'm inclined to do this by definition:

1) to commend - To represent as worthy, qualified, or desirable.
com-mend, put your trust in.

2) credible - Capable of being believed; worthy of confidence; reliable.

Robert asked for recommendations from a group of people he, if not
exactly "trusts", knows fairly well, which is a type of credential.  He
then ranked them by the number of hits each recommendation got.  More
recommendations means more credibility.

Of course, one could do that with anything, coffee makers, gasoline
vendors, art vendors, etc.  He chose literary fiction, which is mostly
considered to be highly literate _stories_ with some psychological
depth.  All those components (literacy, story-telling, psychology) are
usually considered uniquely human.  So, it's fair (but arguable, of
course) to say that literary fiction is mainly about what it means to be
human.  Someone in the thread even made the comment that good literary
fiction transcends many cultures, time, and space more so than, say,
non-fiction, which I take to mean that those transcendent works capture
something essential about humans.

So, this list is simply a collection of friam-accredited works about
what it means to be human.

There are many other works that might be ... oh, SFI-accredited works
... or Nobel-accredited works ... or *-accredited works.  And there are
probably many more that aren't accredited at all!  I end up listening to
lyrics and reading short stories written by friends of mine all the
time.  Nobody recommends them to me except the author, which is just
about the minimum credibility something can have... other than finding
something arbitrary in the street.  Yet, these uncredited works often
carry (what seems to me) a lot of insight into what it means to be human.

Since I'm a big fan of wackos (being one myself, of course), I tend to
turn to extreme people to circumscribe what it means to be human.  That
means people like LaVey (humanism), Crowley (exploitation), RA Wilson
(enlightenment), Feyerabend (rebelliousness), Lima-de-Faria (testability
of evolution), Thomas Gold (testability of fossil fuels), Richard
Lindzen (testability of AGW), etc.  This is why I recommended "The
Magus" by Fowles.  The teacher in that story plays a role similar to Don
Juan in Castaneda's stories and, with a series of complicated mind
games, tricks the protagonist into a more synoptic view of the world.

I hope that large bowl of spaghetti-sentences helps clarify what I
meant. ;-)

Nicholas Thompson wrote circa 10-10-13 01:43 PM:
> Wow, Glen.  If somebody else doesn't ask you to spell this out, I will.
> Oooops, I just did!
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf
> Of glen e. p. ropella
> [...]
> No.  What we have are credible (etymologically and semantically related to
> the other thread about expertise) hooks into what it means to be human.
> 
> There are plenty of other hooks, some much less credible but no less
> insightful (e.g. Crowley's "The Book of the Law" or Anton Lavey's "Satanic
> Bible").
> 
> What we engaged in, here, is an exercise in credibility and reputation.


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