Yes, we lie frequently. Yes, it is lying - we are either stating a falsehood or omitting the truth (the atheist example upthread). Human beings are social animals - we constantly try to manipulate our social situation for our personal optimum - it's built into us. Some of us are better at it than others. Some (Aspergers?) are downright incapable.
Ray Parks Consilient Heuristician/IDART Program Manager V: 505-844-4024 M: 505-238-9359 P: 505-951-6084 NIPR: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> SIPR: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> (send NIPR reminder) JWICS: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> (send NIPR reminder) On Jan 17, 2013, at 11:29 AM, glen wrote: Parks, Raymond wrote at 01/17/2013 10:19 AM: These are all proof that we lie frequently in order to grease the wheels of society. Isn't it something like a false distinction to call all this "lying"? After all, we have von Neumann's extrapolation of Tarski's (or perhaps Goedel's) work claiming that it's impossible to tell the whole truth. And we have non-well-founded set theory to tell us that it's problematic to tell nothing but the truth. Hence, if we follow your setup to its logical conclusion, then everyone is always lying. -- glen ============================================================ FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com
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