Even I can detect a willful argumentative bent here. Ray said, and I quote: "Yes, we lie frequently."
You said, "OK. Well, if we're all always lying, [...]" Now now, you know better... --Doug On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 11:42 AM, glen <g...@ropella.name> wrote: > Parks, Raymond wrote at 01/17/2013 10:34 AM: > > Yes, we lie frequently. Yes, it is lying - we are either stating a > > falsehood or omitting the truth (the atheist example upthread). > > Human beings are social animals - we constantly try to manipulate our > > social situation for our personal optimum - it's built into us. Some > > of us are better at it than others. Some (Aspergers?) are downright > > incapable. > > OK. Well, if we're all always lying, then it seems like "lying" is a > useless term. In order to make progress in the discussion, we'll have > to come up with a taxonomy of qualifiers. We've covered "white". It's > ubiquitous, and hence also useless. What other types of lying are > there? Specifically, which lies are indicators of legally relevant > internal states like shame versus which lies are merely facilitators of > the type of information control advocated by Eric and my lurker's use case? > > -- > glen > > ============================================================ > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College > to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com > -- *Doug Roberts drobe...@rti.org d...@parrot-farm.net* *http://parrot-farm.net/Second-Cousins*<http://parrot-farm.net/Second-Cousins> * <http://parrot-farm.net/Second-Cousins> 505-455-7333 - Office 505-672-8213 - Mobile*
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