I don't think bored is a correct term. More interested in examples and arguments-tied-to-examples that are less fanciful than unicorns.
Eagerly awaiting the ICPR conference and gathering lots of "evidence" from a well established, and credentialed, "community of interest." davew On Tue, Mar 10, 2020, at 3:58 AM, [email protected] wrote: > Glen -- > > In the absence of other commentary, you are perhaps a good bell-wether > of whether (?) we should Dave and I should take this offlist. I don’t > think the topic of acid epistemology is inappropriate to the list, but > if he and I are the only people paying attention, and even YOU are > bored, then perhaps now is the time for us to bag it. > > Nick > > Nicholas Thompson > Emeritus Professor of Ethology and Psychology > Clark University > [email protected] > https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/ > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Friam <[email protected]> On Behalf Of u?l? ? > Sent: Monday, March 9, 2020 3:05 PM > To: FriAM <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Acid epistemology - Eric Help!!!! > > Why?! Oh why do y'all keep talking about unscientific things when you > could be talking about scientific things? Dave's report about what goes > on at a conference is, to me, *exactly* the same as Dave's report about > any other experience he may have had, high or sober. They're both > anecdotal at best. > > Why talk about the truth-status of unicorns when we could be talking > about the reliability of predictors of *categories* of experiences like > this: > > Neuroticism is associated with challenging experiences with psilocybin > mushrooms. > https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/28781400 > > > Abstract > > > > OBJECTIVES: > > Classic hallucinogens (e.g. psilocybin and LSD) have substantial effects on > > perception, cognition, and emotion that can often be psychologically > > challenging, however we know very little regarding the source of > > significant individual variability that has been observed in the frequency > > and intensity of challenging experiences (i.e. "bad trips") with > > psychedelics. Previous clinical and observational literature suggests that > > there may be an association between neuroticism and challenging psychedelic > > experiences. > > > > METHODS: > > Data from two online surveys of challenging experiences with psilocybin > > were analyzed. Multivariate analysis was used to estimate the associations > > between total score and scores from seven sub-factors (fear, grief, > > physical distress, insanity, isolation, death, and paranoia) of the > > Challenging Experience Questionnaire (CEQ), and scale scores from the Ten > > Item Personality Inventory (TIPI) in Study 1 (N=1993) and the Big Five > > Inventory (BFI) in Study 2 (N = 981). > > > > RESULTS: > > CEQ scores were negatively associated with emotional stability scores (the > > inverse of neuroticism) in Study 1 and positively associated with > > neuroticism scores in Study 2. > > > > CONCLUSIONS: > > Neuroticism may contribute to the strength of challenging experiences in > > uncontrolled settings. > > > > On 3/9/20 10:36 AM, [email protected] wrote: > > First, let’s go back to unicorns. > -- > ☣ uǝlƃ > > ============================================================ > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe > http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com > archives back to 2003: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ > FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ by Dr. Strangelove > > > ============================================================ > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College > to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com > archives back to 2003: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ > FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ by Dr. Strangelove > ============================================================ FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com archives back to 2003: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ by Dr. Strangelove
