Well, there are 2 issues with mapping the experience you have in mind with the 
one I have in mind. First, I run in a fasted state, having not eaten since the 
night before ... so about 12 hours fasted at the minimum. Second, depleting 
glycogen from the muscle is different from fully depleting the liver, which is 
why HIIT works. I didn't really do HIIT very often. But I did always start and 
finish with sprints, with a long steady run in between.

But those details shouldn't prevent you from grokking the gist. To change the 
experience being referenced, there are many ways to become, say, hypercalcemic. 
But the experiences of being hypercalcemic should be similar. And given the 
myriad compensation mechanisms the body has to regulate calcium, if 
hypercalcemia can be considered knowledge, what matters is the comparisons 
between the various protocols by which we cause a person to enter the state. 
The state itself isn't knowledge. But the paths to the state (and out of the 
state) are.

On 3/10/20 11:15 AM, Marcus Daniels wrote:
> I don't have reason to think the experience I have in mind has to do with 
> metabolism, because it is relatively consistent whether or not I am glycogen 
> depleted.   30 minutes wouldn't be enough to do that.   30 minutes is about 
> what it takes to be comfortable, e.g. stable thermal regulation.


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