Trump clearly gets frustrated by that very thing. I know, "So what?"
By the way, regarding the subtypes of narcissism: They are distinguished by severity of symptoms rather than differences in the basic dynamic, which are the same. --- Frank C. Wimberly 140 Calle Ojo Feliz, Santa Fe, NM 87505 505 670-9918 Santa Fe, NM On Wed, Apr 29, 2020, 12:11 PM uǝlƃ ☣ <[email protected]> wrote: > Just FYI, you *forced* me to take another stupid personality test... I > couldn't resist the link on that blog entry. It says I'm a good match for > either INFP or INTP. At first, I was going to say there's no way in hell > anyone would ever call me a "healer". But, then again, I got my first copy > of the DSM (IV) from a therapist who worked mostly with the Hopi after > discussing how I might use the DSM entries as the "genetic material" to > build artificial personalities. He commented that that exercise was "good > medicine". But, no. I reject INFP. Pffft. > > I'm strongly attracted to the idea that presentation of enough narcissism > to end up diagnosed with NPD would involve oscillation between grandiocity > and vulnerability. I would push back against the word "oscillation" because > that implies periodicity and an insensitivity to context. So interactive > *modes* would be better. The Schröder-Abé and Fatfouta article makes an > interesting distinction between shame and guilt: > > "Both include a negative evaluation, yet a key distinction lies in the > differential involvement of the self (Tangney, Stuewig, & Mashek, 2007). > While shame focuses on the entire self (e.g., 'Why did _I_ do that?'), > guilt focuses on a specific act or behavior of the self ('Why did I _do > that_?')." [emphasis is theirs] > > I'm not competent to understand how deep the 2 [sub]types of narcissism > might extend. But it fits my intuition that even the most extreme case > would be adaptive to surroundings. Even if robust to shame and guilt, an > extreme grandiose must at least get frustrated when their context keeps > providing negative feedback. > > > > On 4/29/20 10:33 AM, Steven A Smith wrote: > > I think your previous invocation of "modes of being" are apt here. I > > suspect we all have our (minor? trivial? well-managed? well-hidden?) > > episodes of all of these features of narcissism. Just after we hit a > > lucky shot (pick your sport) or make a killer-prediction (stock market, > > news, personal business decision, etc.) we may feel a rush of > > grandiosity. After a particular embarrassing faux-pas, we may feel > > acutely judged and defend it with some posturing or rapid > > change-of-topic. I would suggest that if we are *healthy* (whatever > > that means) that these are passing episodes which we compartmentalize > > more than rationalize... too much rationalization can layer those > > ego-preserving/enhancing habits deeper into our selves. > > > > Some of my earliest/strongest memories involved some kind of acute > > embarrassment or abrupt awareness of my own vulnerability (even if not > > observed by others). To the extent I am aware of those moments and keep > > them somewhat walled off as exceptional moments rather than > > internalizing them as (ambiguous?) proof of my ultimate entitled > > powerfulness or my abject victimhood, I feel like I can use them to > > understand myself and the world I live in better, rather than slip into > > (yet more of) a fantasy that protects/supports my ego. > > > -- > ☣ uǝlƃ > > .-. .- -. -.. --- -- -..-. -.. --- - ... -..-. .- -. -.. -..-. -.. .- ... > .... . ... > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn GMT-6 bit.ly/virtualfriam > unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com > archives: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ > FRIAM-COMIC <http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/FRIAM-COMIC> > http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ >
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