$75?! The Kindle edition of my memoir was only 4.99 before I unpublished it.
This isn't what you asked for but it supports my claim that all pathological(!) narcissism has a common dynamic structure. It only 3+ minutes long and it's free. https://youtu.be/DlopY4DfFV4 On Wed, Apr 29, 2020 at 1:39 PM uǝlƃ ☣ <[email protected]> wrote: > I have not read Kernberg's "Borderline Conditions and Pathological > Narcissism". The kindle copy seems to be $75, which is out of my price > range for almost any book. If the libraries open up soon, I can probably > get my hands on a copy. > > Regardless, I *do*, right now, have access to almost every scientific > journal article. Add that to the tendency of journal articles to include > more data, and more easily analyzable data, and a broad time span, I much > prefer articles to books, anyway. With articles, I can track how hypotheses > about underlying mechanisms seem to be different from, say, 1975 to today. > The DSM 5's "alternative" section is very helpful for that, as well. And > I'm sure some books do it. But it's not that dynamic. The book had to be > published at some point. Even with editions, it's a lot of work to publish > a new edition. Add to all that that articles can be more obviously > peer-reviewed. I can complain about peer review as well as the next yahoo. > But it's still something to consider. > > So, if you know of any (relatively new ... say, > 2000) articles that > argue for vulnerable and grandiose narcissism being 2 phenotypes of the > same generators, then please send them along. If you don't have any > relatively modern *data* arguing for your position, then I'd claim you're > speaking with unjustified authority and may want to soften your language a > bit. ... maybe just for talking to jerks like me, at least. 8^) > > As for Trump, I've *already* said that his narcissism interferes with his > competence. I said that explicitly. I've even said it more than once. But > it seems irrelevant to how we compensate for the situation we're in. I > don't think I said *independent*. I'm sorry if I did. Irrelevant and > independent are different. My point was to find something we can *act* on. > And I don't think we can act on his narcissism. But we can act on his > incompetence. > > > On 4/29/20 12:21 PM, Frank Wimberly wrote: > > Have you read Kernberg? I would do that first and I would claim that he > should dominate me and the others with respect to his/their/my > credibility. My knowledge, such as it is, comes from informal > conversations with senior psychoanalysts in Pittsburgh. Ragins, Schachter, > Ratey, McLaughlin, et al. And my wife who is not a senior analyst but was > a student of all those. She is reticent to talk about these issues but > clearly knows more than I do. > > > > Do you still deny that Trump's narcissism interferes with his ability to > be president? You seem to think it's independent of his incompetence. I > don't think so. > > > -- > ☣ uǝlƃ > > .-. .- -. -.. --- -- -..-. -.. --- - ... -..-. .- -. -.. -..-. -.. .- ... > .... . ... > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn GMT-6 bit.ly/virtualfriam > unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com > archives: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ > FRIAM-COMIC <http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/FRIAM-COMIC> > http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ > -- Frank Wimberly 140 Calle Ojo Feliz Santa Fe, NM 87505 505 670-9918
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