But it's useful, to me, ... Well, that matters.
On Wed, Apr 29, 2020 at 2:57 PM uǝlƃ ☣ <[email protected]> wrote: > On 4/29/20 12:51 PM, Frank Wimberly wrote: > > https://youtu.be/DlopY4DfFV4 > > This one didn't seem to say anything about the 2 phenotypes. So it > (obviously) can't help distinguish them, which means it can't help unify > them. If one doesn't even recognize there could be a difference, then one > can't unify them. > > On 4/29/20 1:30 PM, Frank Wimberly wrote: > > https://youtu.be/Ihu3k_j3KQk > > Yeomans refers to "thin-skinned" narcissists, which I interpret to be what > others call "vulnerable". And it's good that he made at least that > distinction. But everything else he said, other authors have described as > grandiose phenotype. So, he validates other authors' laments that the > majority of work has ignored the vulnerable type. > > > https://youtu.be/xoRuzpsLzTU > > I watched this one yesterday or the day before. But again, it focuses on > the grandiose type and doesn't help distinguish or [re]unify the 2 types. > What might be a Freudian slip, though, is that the unification of the 2 > types, or the refusal to admit there might be 2 types, might be a > "regression to simplicity". >8^D > > > https://youtu.be/OwVL-X_TRDo > > Here, Yeomans refers to what I started this thread with, he thinks > narcissists suffer a lot, enslaved in an isolation. But the research I've > seen in journals indicate that grandiose narcissists *don't* suffer much, > but the vulnerable narcissists *do*. This is directly inferrable from the > *alternative* model of NPD in the DSM 5. And it's reflected to some extent > in pretty much any paper you get from a google scholar search. > > So, to sum up, none of these bolster your position. But it's useful, to > me, because now I'm thinking that the Wink 1991 paper really was a > significant inflection point in the study of narcissism. Thanks for sending > them along. I'll youtube-reciprocate and say that this guy seems pretty > credible: > > Wilmington: > https://www.wilmu.edu/directory/behavioralscience/lori-vien.aspx > YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCC_0vyFTKk1Nlodo4QsiQkw > > -- > ☣ uǝlƃ > > .-. .- -. -.. --- -- -..-. -.. --- - ... -..-. .- -. -.. -..-. -.. .- ... > .... . ... > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn GMT-6 bit.ly/virtualfriam > unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com > archives: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ > FRIAM-COMIC <http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/FRIAM-COMIC> > http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ > -- Frank Wimberly 140 Calle Ojo Feliz Santa Fe, NM 87505 505 670-9918
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