Hm. I appreciate an attempt to cleanly separate the predicative parts from the 
impredicative parts. But you don't seem to be allowing *any* impredicative 
parts. Your push to the universal foundation *smells* like predicativism to me, 
especially when you go off into monism la-la land.

My claim would be that Doug is correct that the words (or concepts even) are 
never *defined* because they cannot be defined in the way the predicativists 
want. This perspective is anti-foundationalism. It's not turtles all the way 
down. It IS that there is no such thing as *down*.

On 7/28/20 11:33 AM, [email protected] wrote:
> I saw you coming!  My bottom line is not predication but the explicitness of 
> whatever predications one makes.  What could, of course define consciousness 
> as "whatever humans do that seems to me conscious" or "Whatever is produced 
> by a human brain".  But, after trying to do science with such definitions, I 
> think most would realize that these definitions are incapacitating.  At that 
> point, a scientist relinquishes those definitions and begins to seek others, 
> definitions that actually direct one toward the possibility of finding 
> answers.  Thus, I stipulate that definitions are part of the dialectic of 
> discovery.  Neither I, nor Frank, is allowed to say M is the meaning of P for 
> all time; we are only allowed to say that for some set of purposes, in some 
> context, M is the meaning of P.  Are we constantly pressing a head toward the 
> most universally applicable definitions?  You bet!  Do we ever get there?  
> Not yet!

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