Predicativism: https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/philosophy-mathematics/#Pre

Your before and after is the same as up and down. It's the *unification* into a 
definite (http://math.stanford.edu/~feferman/papers/whatsdef.pdf) construct 
that's problematic.

On 7/28/20 12:03 PM, [email protected] wrote:
> You are pushing me hard, here, but I think the up/down thang is orthogonal to 
> the predicativist position.  (You invented that word, right?)  We 
> Predicativists need only assert that there is a before and after: i.e., 
> BEFORE we can say whether a thing is, we have to have said, up front, what it 
> would be for that thing to be.  We can take it back soon as we see where it 
> leads.  

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