Interesting book. IMHO neither the weird rules of Quantum Mechanics nor the 
Standard Model can be really fundamental. Why do we have 3 generations of 
matter (electron, muon, tau & up/down, charm/strange, top/bottom quarks) and 
not 1, 2 or 4? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LeptonWhere do the strange rules 
from Quantum Mechanics come from? It would be nice if the rules of Quantum 
Mechanis would somehow emerge from waves propagating in the quantum 
fluctuations of empty space. -J.
-------- Original message --------From: Marcus Daniels <[email protected]> 
Date: 4/9/21  20:17  (GMT+01:00) To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity 
Coffee Group <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Free Will in the Atlantic 
't Hooft has been has a book on these topics.[1]  He has papers periodically 
like this one where he socializes the idea in different ways.  The argument in 
this paper is if there were fast background variables, in quantum experiments 
like the double slit experiment, it could explain how these probabilistic 
measurements occur, with only deterministic drivers.     He goes on to 
speculate that it may have implications for modifications to the Standard Model 
at the highest energy domains, such as the muon experiment Frank mentioned 
might be hinting at.   It is much easier for me to believe than 11 and 24 
dimensional spaces, branes, and all that.    Perhaps that's what Jon is 
suggesting:  Sure,  I do have some sort of agency (personality) that makes me 
favor some hypothesis over others, and thus some kinds of evidence over others 
-- it is a preference for premises and conclusions that aren't buried in layer 
after layer of math that could very well be wrong.    The deterministic story 
of entanglement -- the giant CA of the universe -- seems to work.   I can't 
help wonder if some people hate it JUST because it does take away their 
understanding of what science is?[1] 
https://link.springer.com/book/10.1007%2F978-3-319-41285-6-----Original 
Message-----From: Friam <[email protected]> On Behalf Of u?l? ???Sent: 
Friday, April 9, 2021 8:36 AMTo: [email protected]: Re: [FRIAM] Free 
Will in the AtlanticHa! OK. I'll try to read that. I read the abstract 4 times 
and still don't know what I'm about to read. I read the introduction once and 
still don't know what to expect. My next step is the Discussion, then the meat. 
If you care to toss a bone, I'd appreciate it. But then again, you might be 
rewarding me for being lazy.On 4/8/21 9:58 PM, Marcus Daniels wrote:> > 
https://arxiv.org/pdf/2010.02019.pdf > 
<https://arxiv.org/pdf/2010.02019.pdf>--↙↙↙ uǝlƃ- .... . -..-. . -. -.. -..-. 
.. ... -..-. .... . .-. .FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listservZoom Fridays 
9:30a-12p Mtn GMT-6  bit.ly/virtualfriam un/subscribe 
http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.comFRIAM-COMIC 
http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/archives: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/- 
.... . -..-. . -. -.. -..-. .. ... -..-. .... . .-. .FRIAM Applied Complexity 
Group listservZoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn GMT-6  bit.ly/virtualfriamun/subscribe 
http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.comFRIAM-COMIC 
http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/archives: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/
- .... . -..-. . -. -.. -..-. .. ... -..-. .... . .-. .
FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv
Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn GMT-6  bit.ly/virtualfriam
un/subscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com
FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/
archives: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/

Reply via email to