Yeah, just like we were seriously running out of stuff in 1980 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simon%E2%80%93Ehrlich_wager But of course, it's different this time around
On Thu, 15 Apr 2021 at 19:41, Merle Lefkoff <[email protected]> wrote: > Nick, I think we have an energy supply problem. We don't have enough > stuff left in the ground to dig up to supply our technology much longer at > a price anyone can afford. I have a colleague who has calculated that we > will run out of copper in three years, as just one example. My > understanding is that copper wire conducts most of our electricity. > > On Thu, Apr 15, 2021 at 11:17 AM <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Merle, and all, >> >> >> >> A naïve question: Do we have an energy supply problem or do we have an >> energy distribution problem? For starters, let there be a solar collector >> on the roof of every house in santa fe, roughly the area of the roof >> (roofly the area of the rough?) . Assuming energy were entirely miscible, >> what proportion of the total energy needs (except food, of course) of Santa >> Feans would that generate. I assume hundreds of percents, right? >> >> >> >> N >> >> >> >> Nick Thompson >> >> [email protected] >> >> https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/ >> >> >> >> *From:* Friam <[email protected]> *On Behalf Of *Merle Lefkoff >> *Sent:* Thursday, April 15, 2021 10:51 AM >> *To:* The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group < >> [email protected]> >> *Subject:* Re: [FRIAM] A Theory of (Almost) Everything - IEEE Spectrum >> >> >> >> Almost, but not quite, Jochen. He doesn't know about embodied energy. A >> motor car has an embodied energy contents of 20 800k kWh, while an electric >> car's embodied energy amounts to 34 700 kWh. Perhaps if he knew this he >> wouldn't be so optimistic. We are racing toward our doom. >> >> >> >> On Thu, Apr 15, 2021 at 10:06 AM Jochen Fromm <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Interesting IEEE podcast: an interview with Václav Smil, who wrote a >> book about "Grand Transitions", similar to "The Major Transitions in >> Evolution" from John Maynard Smith and Eörs Szathmáry >> >> >> https://spectrum.ieee.org/podcast/geek-life/history/a-theory-of-almost-everything >> >> >> >> -J. >> >> >> >> - .... . -..-. . -. -.. -..-. .. ... -..-. .... . .-. . >> FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv >> Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn GMT-6 bit.ly/virtualfriam >> un/subscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com >> FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ >> archives: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Merle Lefkoff, Ph.D. >> Center for Emergent Diplomacy >> emergentdiplomacy.org >> >> Santa Fe, New Mexico, USA >> >> >> mobile: (303) 859-5609 >> skype: merle.lelfkoff2 >> >> twitter: @merle110 >> >> >> - .... . -..-. . -. -.. -..-. .. ... -..-. .... . .-. . >> FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv >> Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn GMT-6 bit.ly/virtualfriam >> un/subscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com >> FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ >> archives: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ >> > > > -- > Merle Lefkoff, Ph.D. > Center for Emergent Diplomacy > emergentdiplomacy.org > Santa Fe, New Mexico, USA > > mobile: (303) 859-5609 > skype: merle.lelfkoff2 > twitter: @merle110 > > - .... . -..-. . -. -.. -..-. .. ... -..-. .... . .-. . > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn GMT-6 bit.ly/virtualfriam > un/subscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com > FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ > archives: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ >
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