What email client and platform are you using? On Mon, Sep 13, 2021 at 8:37 AM Barry MacKichan < [email protected]> wrote:
> My email client keeps track of conversations, so if message A today is a > reply to message B from a year ago, the top of my inbox shows message B > with a disclosure triangle. Clicking it will show message B — the next part > of the conversation. In Friam, almost every message gets responses, so > there a frequently many old messages at the top level of my inbox. > > Hmm… This behavior is an option. I’ll go switch it off now… > > —Barry > > On 12 Sep 2021, at 23:57, Frank Wimberly wrote: > > I didn't notice the date. I thought it was newly posted. Why would it > have appeared in my email? Maybe I did a search and saw Marcus's message > by coincidence. At least my comment was brief. > > --- > Frank C. Wimberly > 140 Calle Ojo Feliz, > <https://www.google.com/maps/search/140+Calle+Ojo+Feliz,++Santa+Fe,+NM+87505?entry=gmail&source=g> > Santa Fe, NM 87505 > <https://www.google.com/maps/search/140+Calle+Ojo+Feliz,++Santa+Fe,+NM+87505?entry=gmail&source=g> > > 505 670-9918 > Santa Fe, NM > > On Sun, Sep 12, 2021, 9:50 PM Gary Schiltz <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> Maybe I missed something, but what prompted you to dig up a 16 month old >> comment from Marcus to respond to? >> >> On Sun, Sep 12, 2021 at 3:29 PM Frank Wimberly <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> Pollyanna! (ironic) >>> >>> --- >>> Frank C. Wimberly >>> 140 Calle Ojo Feliz, >>> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/140+Calle+Ojo+Feliz,++Santa+Fe,+NM+87505?entry=gmail&source=g> >>> Santa Fe, NM 87505 >>> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/140+Calle+Ojo+Feliz,++Santa+Fe,+NM+87505?entry=gmail&source=g> >>> >>> 505 670-9918 >>> Santa Fe, NM >>> >>> On Sat, May 16, 2020, 10:32 AM Marcus Daniels <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Here’s what I expect will probably happen. The PANDEMIC will be >>>> declared over, like Mission Accomplished with W. There will be a slower >>>> burn until fall, and then it will accelerate again. But people will be >>>> acclimate to the death rate, like they acclimate to gun violence. >>>> Unemployment and homelessness will soar and be persistent. Suicides will >>>> go up, and be normalized. Meanwhile, people with the means will >>>> self-isolate and be the first to get access to antiviral treatments. Out >>>> in the blood and muck, herd immunity will begin to emerge in at risk >>>> populations. The U.S. will continue to have high prevalence compared to >>>> other countries. History will look back on this as a Chernobyl moment, >>>> where the prestige of the United States fell to Asia. And a second term >>>> of Trump will ensure it. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> *From: *Friam <[email protected]> on behalf of Prof David West >>>> <[email protected]> >>>> *Reply-To: *The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group < >>>> [email protected]> >>>> *Date: *Saturday, May 16, 2020 at 8:25 AM >>>> *To: *"[email protected]" <[email protected]> >>>> *Subject: *Re: [FRIAM] the end of the pandemic >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Steve, >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Yes the subject line is click-bait. In the body of the message I made a >>>> distinction between the disease pandemic and the perceived PANDEMIC. The >>>> latter will go away whether or not the disease does. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> The metrics for the latter would include increased traffic to websites >>>> like the Mathematica Individual COVID Risk calculator and less to WHO, CDC, >>>> and other overall statistical sites; a noticeable shift from personal >>>> interest stories about succuming to COVID to ones about succumbing to >>>> economic hardship; gaming floors in Las Vegas casinos opening with lots of >>>> assurance that gamblers are at no greater risk than when visiting a grocery >>>> store; stories about death rates moving from the front page to the second >>>> page or section; significant increase in lawsuits against restrictions with >>>> quick, probably out of court, capitulation by governor's; and the central >>>> theme of stories about the pandemic, what the science tells, us, >>>> whistleblowers, etc will be almost purely political in nature. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Going beyond mid-June, I would predict that you will see "wave crests" >>>> in terms of cases and deaths, but not "spikes." They will be big enough for >>>> the "experts" to claim they are right, but not big enough to trigger any >>>> socio-economic response and most people will regard any reporting of same >>>> with cynicism. Any attempt to reimpose lock-downs would likely result in >>>> furious resistance and widespread civil disobedience. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> davew >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Tue, May 12, 2020, at 7:13 PM, Steven A Smith wrote: >>>> >>>> Dave - >>>> >>>> The COVID-19 pandemic will end, at least in the US, by mid-June, 2020. >>>> >>>> Ignoring the "bait" that I (and others) took earlier, I'll try to >>>> respond to the singular prediction above: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> What means "end"? What is a specific statistic that you believe to >>>> indicate that the pandemic has ended? >>>> >>>> From Wikipedia: >>>> >>>> A *pandemic* (from Greek <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_Greek> >>>> πᾶν, *pan*, "all" and δῆμος, *demos*, "people") is an epidemic >>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epidemic> of disease >>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disease> that has spread across a large >>>> region, for instance multiple continents >>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Continents> or worldwide, affecting a >>>> substantial number of people. A widespread endemic >>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Endemic_(epidemiology)> disease with a >>>> stable number of infected people is not a pandemic. Widespread endemic >>>> diseases with a stable number of infected people such as recurrences of >>>> seasonal >>>> influenza <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seasonal_influenza> are >>>> generally excluded as they occur simultaneously in large regions of the >>>> globe rather than being spread worldwide. >>>> >>>> The WHO published THIS description of phases of a pandemic: >>>> >>>> https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK143061/ >>>> >>>> [image: Image removed by sender.] >>>> >>>> *In the **post-pandemic** period, influenza disease activity will have >>>> returned to levels normally seen for seasonal influenza. It is expected >>>> that the pandemic virus will behave as a seasonal influenza A virus. At >>>> this stage, it is important to maintain surveillance and update pandemic >>>> preparedness and response plans accordingly. An intensive phase of recovery >>>> and evaluation may be required.* >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Or maybe some other (measurable) definition? >>>> >>>> - Steve >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> .-. .- -. -.. --- -- -..-. -.. --- - ... -..-. .- -. -.. -..-. -.. .- >>>> ... .... . ... >>>> >>>> FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv >>>> >>>> Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn GMT-6 bit.ly/virtualfriam >>>> >>>> unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com >>>> >>>> archives: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ >>>> >>>> FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- --- .-. .-.. --- -.-. -.- ... -..-. .- .-. . -..-. - .... . -..-. . >>>> ... ... . -. - .. .- .-.. -..-. .-- --- .-. -.- . .-. ... >>>> FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv >>>> Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn GMT-6 bit.ly/virtualfriam >>>> un/subscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com >>>> archives: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ >>>> FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ >>>> >>> - .... . -..-. . -. -.. -..-. .. ... -..-. .... . .-. . >>> FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv >>> Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn GMT-6 bit.ly/virtualfriam >>> un/subscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com >>> FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ >>> archives: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ >>> >> - .... . -..-. . -. -.. -..-. .. ... -..-. .... . .-. . >> FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv >> Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn GMT-6 bit.ly/virtualfriam >> un/subscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com >> FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ >> archives: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ >> > - .... . -..-. . -. -.. -..-. .. ... -..-. .... . .-. . > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn GMT-6 bit.ly/virtualfriam > un/subscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com > FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ > archives: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ > > - .... . -..-. . -. -.. -..-. .. ... -..-. .... . .-. . > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn GMT-6 bit.ly/virtualfriam > un/subscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com > FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ > archives: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ >
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