I am confused.  Lying every day on Twitter is ok, but misrepresenting an 
identity is bad..  What kind of parody is labeled “Here morons, this is a joke.”

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> On Nov 7, 2022, at 11:05 AM, glen <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Musk *is* the joke. A joke of a person ... like we now use the verb Borked. 
> "Musk" could be shorthand for Poe's Law, exquisitely explained in the recent 
> Onion friend of the court filing.
> 
> "You were totally Musked, man. It's not even bad faith. That guy couldn't 
> joke his way out of a paper bag."
> 
> 
>> On November 7, 2022 10:33:38 AM EST, Marcus Daniels <[email protected]> 
>> wrote:
>> Where’s the sense of humor now?
>> 
>> <https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11397213/Musk-threatens-boot-Twitter-account-impersonators.html>
>> [64260315-0-image-a-4_1667788476734.jpg]
>> Musk threatens to boot Twitter account 
>> impersonators<https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11397213/Musk-threatens-boot-Twitter-account-impersonators.html>
>> dailymail.co.uk<https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11397213/Musk-threatens-boot-Twitter-account-impersonators.html>
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Nov 6, 2022, at 5:53 PM, glen <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>>  That you call Mastodon 'twitter-like' is discomforting. ActivityPub is 
>> fundamentally different.I guess the premature registration is reasonable, 
>> given the politics of the moment. But the 'fediverse' really is distributed, 
>> very unlike twitter. I really love that the Gab twits ported to Mastodon. 
>> That, unlike Musk's perverted conception, is a real example of free speech. 
>> You really are free to turn open source and open protocol to your weirdo 
>> subculture. We just don't have to link to you.
>> 
>> Don't think 'twitter-like'. Think 'decentralized'.
>> 
>> On November 6, 2022 5:51:40 PM EST, Steve Smith <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> Trying to understand BookWyrm vs StoryGraph vs GoodReads and Twitter vs 
>> Mastadon (and beyond), I found this aggregator of alternative 
>> recommendations:
>> 
>> https://alternativeto.net/
>> 
>> which doesn't necessarily solve anything, it just makes it obvious how 
>> challenging "too many choices" can be...
>> 
>> After a lame attempt to go with Mastadon I decided to abandond Twitter-like 
>> things altogether.  I doubt I will be willing to throw GoodReads over for 
>> anything else because of the participating base of my own personal/family 
>> network there.   I can at least avoid clicking through a GoodReads 
>> recommendation to order from Amazon.
>> 
>> https://alternativeto.net/software/bookwyrm/
>> 
>> I haven't begun (tried?) to evaluate AlternativeTo.Net itself...
>> 
>> Is this the tragedy of the "free market" (subset of "commons")?
>> 
>> 
>> On 11/4/22 3:00 PM, glen wrote:
>> I'd forgotten about this until the release yesterday:
>> 
>> https://joinbookwyrm.com/
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 11/2/22 14:52, Steve Smith wrote:
>> 
>> On 11/2/22 9:43 AM, Roger Critchlow wrote:
>> Thanks, Glen.
>> 
>> It would be nice if there were a public bibliographic reference url that one 
>> could use to name a book that only conveyed the thing in itself.  Goodreads 
>> was that once, then Amazon bought them.  Ditto for video and audio 
>> recordings and other objects of public interest.
>> 
>> I admit to continuing to use Goodreads this way in spite of two problems... 
>> the Amazon affiliation/ownership of course, but also the too often spotty 
>> reviews...  I don't provide many nor particularly good reviews myself, so 
>> I've no room to complain really.
>> 
>> So I suppose I agree with your "public bibliographic reference url" point.   
>> It seems as if Wikipedia is a good candidate but I haven't done the work to 
>> understand how new entries are made... are they always required to be made 
>> by a citizen of the community who is NOT affiliated with the book 
>> (publisher, author, etc)? I find a *lot* of the books I seek in Wikipedia 
>> and prefer them for reference when their book-description (and cross links 
>> to related works, author, etc) are particularly apt, but that is also 
>> spotty.   I use Goodreads mostly to follow what family/friends are reading 
>> and what *they* think of their reads.
>> 
>> The trend toward crowd-sourced public-use corpii being acquired by private 
>> interests (even public corporations are private interests) is disturbing (FB 
>> <-Mapillary, Amazon<-Goodreads)...   Twitter->BoringCo, etc)
>> 
>> 
>> Eugenia Cheng has other books and a pile of youtube videos.  Interestingly, 
>> her primary institutional affiliation is the Art Institute of Chicago, where 
>> as resident scientist she teaches math to art students.  She has a public 
>> reading for kids scheduled in Jersey City this month.  Her definition of 
>> category theory is "the mathematics of mathematics" which she expands as 
>> "the logical study of the logical study of logical things."
>> 
>> Hasok Chang has a third book, Is Water H2O, which Amazon fails to index on 
>> his amazon author page, though it is on amazon at a blistering price in 
>> every available format.  I found a pdf on the internets.  It's details the 
>> history of working out the chemical identity of water. Two themes are that 
>> 1) the consensus answers to scientific questions often change in 
>> anticipation of the arrival of corroboration, 2) there are often multiple 
>> acceptable answers to scientific questions.  These are possibly consequences 
>> of being a realisitic realist.
>> 
>> Interesting set of recursions...  we CS types tend to love our 
>> arbitrary-depth recursion, but the special cases like double-negatives, and 
>> Rummy's unkown unknowns and now Chang's logical logicologoy of logics and 
>> realistic realists are ... *special*?  While some may prefer "turtles all 
>> the way down" sometimes just a few turtles deep suffices?
>> 
>> - Steve
>> 
>> PS... couldn't help hearing/reading "Cheech&Chong" on the first reading of 
>> this thread.
>> 
>> 
>> -- rec --
>> 
>> On Wed, Nov 2, 2022 at 9:57 AM glen 
>> <[email protected]><mailto:[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>>   There. I fixed that for you. 8^D
>> 
>>>   On 11/1/22 19:36, Roger Critchlow wrote:
>>> Interesting visit with my old boss/friend today, he mentioned some books of 
>>> interest, and while looking for them I discovered yet another book.
>>> 
>> 
>>   
>> https://bookshop.org/p/books/the-joy-of-abstraction-an-exploration-of-math-category-theory-and-life-eugenia-cheng/18557720?ean=9781108477222
>> 
>>> Exploration-Category-Theory/dp/1108477224>
>>> Eugenia Cheng, The Joy of Abstraction: An Exploration of Math, Category 
>>> Theory, and Life, published October 2022.
>>> 
>>> A presentation of category theory that keeps the underlying algebra basic.
>>> 
>> 
>>   
>> https://bookshop.org/p/books/inventing-temperature-measurement-and-scientific-progress-hasok-chang/9513488?ean=9780195337389
>> 
>>> Hasok Chang, Inventing Temperature: Measurement and Scientific Progress
>>> 
>>> An itemized history of temperature and all the wrong turns taken along the 
>>> way, more detail than even the author cares to read again.  Poetic justice 
>>> to examine the operation of the pragmatist's ratchet and pawl over the 
>>> centuries as it rescues workable definitions of temperature from thermal 
>>> confusion.
>>> 
>> 
>>   
>> https://bookshop.org/p/books/realism-for-realistic-people-a-new-pragmatist-philosophy-of-science-hasok-chang/18368583?ean=9781108470384
>> 
>>> Hasok Chang, Realism for Realistic People: A New Pragmatist Philosophy of 
>>> Science, available on kindle on November 30, 2022.
>>> 
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