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On Nov 6, 2022, at 5:53 PM, glen <[email protected]> wrote:
That you call Mastodon 'twitter-like' is discomforting. ActivityPub is
fundamentally different.I guess the premature registration is reasonable, given
the politics of the moment. But the 'fediverse' really is distributed, very
unlike twitter. I really love that the Gab twits ported to Mastodon. That,
unlike Musk's perverted conception, is a real example of free speech. You
really are free to turn open source and open protocol to your weirdo
subculture. We just don't have to link to you.
Don't think 'twitter-like'. Think 'decentralized'.
On November 6, 2022 5:51:40 PM EST, Steve Smith <[email protected]> wrote:
Trying to understand BookWyrm vs StoryGraph vs GoodReads and Twitter vs
Mastadon (and beyond), I found this aggregator of alternative recommendations:
https://alternativeto.net/
which doesn't necessarily solve anything, it just makes it obvious how challenging
"too many choices" can be...
After a lame attempt to go with Mastadon I decided to abandond Twitter-like
things altogether. I doubt I will be willing to throw GoodReads over for
anything else because of the participating base of my own personal/family
network there. I can at least avoid clicking through a GoodReads
recommendation to order from Amazon.
https://alternativeto.net/software/bookwyrm/
I haven't begun (tried?) to evaluate AlternativeTo.Net itself...
Is this the tragedy of the "free market" (subset of "commons")?
On 11/4/22 3:00 PM, glen wrote:
I'd forgotten about this until the release yesterday:
https://joinbookwyrm.com/
On 11/2/22 14:52, Steve Smith wrote:
On 11/2/22 9:43 AM, Roger Critchlow wrote:
Thanks, Glen.
It would be nice if there were a public bibliographic reference url that one
could use to name a book that only conveyed the thing in itself. Goodreads was
that once, then Amazon bought them. Ditto for video and audio recordings and
other objects of public interest.
I admit to continuing to use Goodreads this way in spite of two problems... the
Amazon affiliation/ownership of course, but also the too often spotty
reviews... I don't provide many nor particularly good reviews myself, so I've
no room to complain really.
So I suppose I agree with your "public bibliographic reference url" point. It
seems as if Wikipedia is a good candidate but I haven't done the work to understand how
new entries are made... are they always required to be made by a citizen of the community
who is NOT affiliated with the book (publisher, author, etc)? I find a *lot* of the books
I seek in Wikipedia and prefer them for reference when their book-description (and cross
links to related works, author, etc) are particularly apt, but that is also spotty. I
use Goodreads mostly to follow what family/friends are reading and what *they* think of
their reads.
The trend toward crowd-sourced public-use corpii being acquired by private interests
(even public corporations are private interests) is disturbing (FB <-Mapillary,
Amazon<-Goodreads)... Twitter->BoringCo, etc)
Eugenia Cheng has other books and a pile of youtube videos. Interestingly, her primary
institutional affiliation is the Art Institute of Chicago, where as resident scientist she teaches
math to art students. She has a public reading for kids scheduled in Jersey City this month. Her
definition of category theory is "the mathematics of mathematics" which she expands as
"the logical study of the logical study of logical things."
Hasok Chang has a third book, Is Water H2O, which Amazon fails to index on his
amazon author page, though it is on amazon at a blistering price in every
available format. I found a pdf on the internets. It's details the history of
working out the chemical identity of water. Two themes are that 1) the
consensus answers to scientific questions often change in anticipation of the
arrival of corroboration, 2) there are often multiple acceptable answers to
scientific questions. These are possibly consequences of being a realisitic
realist.
Interesting set of recursions... we CS types tend to love our arbitrary-depth recursion,
but the special cases like double-negatives, and Rummy's unkown unknowns and now Chang's
logical logicologoy of logics and realistic realists are ... *special*? While some may
prefer "turtles all the way down" sometimes just a few turtles deep suffices?
- Steve
PS... couldn't help hearing/reading "Cheech&Chong" on the first reading of this
thread.
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On Wed, Nov 2, 2022 at 9:57 AM glen
<[email protected]><mailto:[email protected]> wrote:
There. I fixed that for you. 8^D
On 11/1/22 19:36, Roger Critchlow wrote:
> Interesting visit with my old boss/friend today, he mentioned some books
of interest, and while looking for them I discovered yet another book.
>
https://bookshop.org/p/books/the-joy-of-abstraction-an-exploration-of-math-category-theory-and-life-eugenia-cheng/18557720?ean=9781108477222
> Exploration-Category-Theory/dp/1108477224>
> Eugenia Cheng, The Joy of Abstraction: An Exploration of Math, Category
Theory, and Life, published October 2022.
>
> A presentation of category theory that keeps the underlying algebra basic.
>
https://bookshop.org/p/books/inventing-temperature-measurement-and-scientific-progress-hasok-chang/9513488?ean=9780195337389
> Hasok Chang, Inventing Temperature: Measurement and Scientific Progress
>
> An itemized history of temperature and all the wrong turns taken along
the way, more detail than even the author cares to read again. Poetic justice to
examine the operation of the pragmatist's ratchet and pawl over the centuries as
it rescues workable definitions of temperature from thermal confusion.
>
https://bookshop.org/p/books/realism-for-realistic-people-a-new-pragmatist-philosophy-of-science-hasok-chang/18368583?ean=9781108470384
> Hasok Chang, Realism for Realistic People: A New Pragmatist Philosophy of
Science, available on kindle on November 30, 2022.
>
