Oh right I forgot that Nixon was President silly me.


On Mon, Nov 7, 2022 at 7:06 PM Marcus Daniels <mar...@snoutfarm.com> wrote:

> After being a fly on the wall at SFI and similar places, this sounds
> exactly right to me.  Nixon too.
>
> [image: original.jpg]
>
> Elon. Trump. Resentment.
> <https://www.theatlantic.com/newsletters/archive/2022/11/elon-trump-resentment/672030/>
> theatlantic.com
> <https://www.theatlantic.com/newsletters/archive/2022/11/elon-trump-resentment/672030/>
>
> <https://www.theatlantic.com/newsletters/archive/2022/11/elon-trump-resentment/672030/>
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Nov 7, 2022, at 1:58 PM, Gillian Densmore <gil.densm...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> 
> Oh and SCOTUSed, the tech sector getting Biden'd and Demed.  The Sunshine
> Protection act getting tantrum'd. Yes I will stay petty about the dems and
> the house have a chance to do *something * other than complain about
> other people and be in campaign mode all the time
> I get news'd a retarded poloticioned (so poloticion.) your a senator
> that's 900 years old acting like a 3 year old eh? congrats on being a waste
> of air.
>
> On Mon, Nov 7, 2022 at 2:47 PM Gillian Densmore <gil.densm...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> You forgot getting Bushed twice.
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 7, 2022 at 1:59 PM Steve Smith <sasm...@swcp.com> wrote:
>>
>>> We been Musked, we been Trumped, the Russians and Ukranians and much of
>>> Europe has been Putined and perhaps Balsinaro (and his followers have
>>> been sumarrily Lula'd)?  One of the more satisfying targets for my own
>>> doomscrolling is to find examples of Corporate Execs and Republican
>>> AHoles being KatiePortered.  SNL fans love watch loving people get
>>> McKinnoned.
>>>
>>> I'm probably just begging to get Ropella'd here...
>>>
>>> On 11/7/22 12:04 PM, glen wrote:
>>> > Musk *is* the joke. A joke of a person ... like we now use the verb
>>> Borked. "Musk" could be shorthand for Poe's Law, exquisitely explained in
>>> the recent Onion friend of the court filing.
>>> >
>>> > "You were totally Musked, man. It's not even bad faith. That guy
>>> couldn't joke his way out of a paper bag."
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On November 7, 2022 10:33:38 AM EST, Marcus Daniels <
>>> mar...@snoutfarm.com> wrote:
>>> >> Where’s the sense of humor now?
>>> >>
>>> >> <
>>> https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11397213/Musk-threatens-boot-Twitter-account-impersonators.html
>>> >
>>> >> [64260315-0-image-a-4_1667788476734.jpg]
>>> >> Musk threatens to boot Twitter account impersonators<
>>> https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11397213/Musk-threatens-boot-Twitter-account-impersonators.html
>>> >
>>> >> dailymail.co.uk<
>>> https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11397213/Musk-threatens-boot-Twitter-account-impersonators.html
>>> >
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> Sent from my iPhone
>>> >>
>>> >> On Nov 6, 2022, at 5:53 PM, glen <geprope...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >>  That you call Mastodon 'twitter-like' is discomforting. ActivityPub
>>> is fundamentally different.I guess the premature registration is
>>> reasonable, given the politics of the moment. But the 'fediverse' really is
>>> distributed, very unlike twitter. I really love that the Gab twits ported
>>> to Mastodon. That, unlike Musk's perverted conception, is a real example of
>>> free speech. You really are free to turn open source and open protocol to
>>> your weirdo subculture. We just don't have to link to you.
>>> >>
>>> >> Don't think 'twitter-like'. Think 'decentralized'.
>>> >>
>>> >> On November 6, 2022 5:51:40 PM EST, Steve Smith <sasm...@swcp.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> Trying to understand BookWyrm vs StoryGraph vs GoodReads and Twitter
>>> vs Mastadon (and beyond), I found this aggregator of alternative
>>> recommendations:
>>> >>
>>> >> https://alternativeto.net/
>>> >>
>>> >> which doesn't necessarily solve anything, it just makes it obvious
>>> how challenging "too many choices" can be...
>>> >>
>>> >> After a lame attempt to go with Mastadon I decided to abandond
>>> Twitter-like things altogether.  I doubt I will be willing to throw
>>> GoodReads over for anything else because of the participating base of my
>>> own personal/family network there.   I can at least avoid clicking through
>>> a GoodReads recommendation to order from Amazon.
>>> >>
>>> >> https://alternativeto.net/software/bookwyrm/
>>> >>
>>> >> I haven't begun (tried?) to evaluate AlternativeTo.Net itself...
>>> >>
>>> >> Is this the tragedy of the "free market" (subset of "commons")?
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> On 11/4/22 3:00 PM, glen wrote:
>>> >> I'd forgotten about this until the release yesterday:
>>> >>
>>> >> https://joinbookwyrm.com/
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> On 11/2/22 14:52, Steve Smith wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> On 11/2/22 9:43 AM, Roger Critchlow wrote:
>>> >> Thanks, Glen.
>>> >>
>>> >> It would be nice if there were a public bibliographic reference url
>>> that one could use to name a book that only conveyed the thing in itself.
>>> Goodreads was that once, then Amazon bought them.  Ditto for video and
>>> audio recordings and other objects of public interest.
>>> >>
>>> >> I admit to continuing to use Goodreads this way in spite of two
>>> problems... the Amazon affiliation/ownership of course, but also the too
>>> often spotty reviews...  I don't provide many nor particularly good reviews
>>> myself, so I've no room to complain really.
>>> >>
>>> >> So I suppose I agree with your "public bibliographic reference url"
>>> point.   It seems as if Wikipedia is a good candidate but I haven't done
>>> the work to understand how new entries are made... are they always required
>>> to be made by a citizen of the community who is NOT affiliated with the
>>> book (publisher, author, etc)? I find a *lot* of the books I seek in
>>> Wikipedia and prefer them for reference when their book-description (and
>>> cross links to related works, author, etc) are particularly apt, but that
>>> is also spotty.   I use Goodreads mostly to follow what family/friends are
>>> reading and what *they* think of their reads.
>>> >>
>>> >> The trend toward crowd-sourced public-use corpii being acquired by
>>> private interests (even public corporations are private interests) is
>>> disturbing (FB <-Mapillary, Amazon<-Goodreads)...   Twitter->BoringCo, etc)
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> Eugenia Cheng has other books and a pile of youtube videos.
>>> Interestingly, her primary institutional affiliation is the Art Institute
>>> of Chicago, where as resident scientist she teaches math to art students.
>>> She has a public reading for kids scheduled in Jersey City this month.  Her
>>> definition of category theory is "the mathematics of mathematics" which she
>>> expands as "the logical study of the logical study of logical things."
>>> >>
>>> >> Hasok Chang has a third book, Is Water H2O, which Amazon fails to
>>> index on his amazon author page, though it is on amazon at a blistering
>>> price in every available format.  I found a pdf on the internets.  It's
>>> details the history of working out the chemical identity of water. Two
>>> themes are that 1) the consensus answers to scientific questions often
>>> change in anticipation of the arrival of corroboration, 2) there are often
>>> multiple acceptable answers to scientific questions.  These are possibly
>>> consequences of being a realisitic realist.
>>> >>
>>> >> Interesting set of recursions...  we CS types tend to love our
>>> arbitrary-depth recursion, but the special cases like double-negatives, and
>>> Rummy's unkown unknowns and now Chang's logical logicologoy of logics and
>>> realistic realists are ... *special*?  While some may prefer "turtles all
>>> the way down" sometimes just a few turtles deep suffices?
>>> >>
>>> >> - Steve
>>> >>
>>> >> PS... couldn't help hearing/reading "Cheech&Chong" on the first
>>> reading of this thread.
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> -- rec --
>>> >>
>>> >> On Wed, Nov 2, 2022 at 9:57 AM glen <geprope...@gmail.com><mailto:
>>> geprope...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >>     There. I fixed that for you. 8^D
>>> >>
>>> >>     On 11/1/22 19:36, Roger Critchlow wrote:
>>> >>     > Interesting visit with my old boss/friend today, he mentioned
>>> some books of interest, and while looking for them I discovered yet another
>>> book.
>>> >>     >
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> https://bookshop.org/p/books/the-joy-of-abstraction-an-exploration-of-math-category-theory-and-life-eugenia-cheng/18557720?ean=9781108477222
>>> >>
>>> >>     > Exploration-Category-Theory/dp/1108477224>
>>> >>     > Eugenia Cheng, The Joy of Abstraction: An Exploration of Math,
>>> Category Theory, and Life, published October 2022.
>>> >>     >
>>> >>     > A presentation of category theory that keeps the underlying
>>> algebra basic.
>>> >>     >
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> https://bookshop.org/p/books/inventing-temperature-measurement-and-scientific-progress-hasok-chang/9513488?ean=9780195337389
>>> >>
>>> >>     > Hasok Chang, Inventing Temperature: Measurement and Scientific
>>> Progress
>>> >>     >
>>> >>     > An itemized history of temperature and all the wrong turns
>>> taken along the way, more detail than even the author cares to read again.
>>> Poetic justice to examine the operation of the pragmatist's ratchet and
>>> pawl over the centuries as it rescues workable definitions of temperature
>>> from thermal confusion.
>>> >>     >
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> https://bookshop.org/p/books/realism-for-realistic-people-a-new-pragmatist-philosophy-of-science-hasok-chang/18368583?ean=9781108470384
>>> >>
>>> >>     > Hasok Chang, Realism for Realistic People: A New Pragmatist
>>> Philosophy of Science, available on kindle on November 30, 2022.
>>> >>     >
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