Don't forget that they also have to back haul that data to their data centres !! They would have to have secret agreements with all of the Tier 1 carriers. Sure sounds far fetched!
Gary B On 08/01/2013 03:51 PM, XF wrote: > Right. But where are their tap ? In Internet Exchange Point ? In AS ? > And how can they do that ? "Hello, I'm NSA, can I get a TAP on your > network" :-) This would say that ISP agree and the amount of data to > transfer would be so vast . How can they transfer all this amount of > data into their system ?? > > > Le 1 août 2013 à 20:56, Gary Baribault <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> a écrit : > >> Optically tapping ALL of the submarine cable going into and out of >> the U.S. would still not give them ALL of the claimed data. They have >> to be tapping all of the major traffic exchange sites in the U.S. to >> get this kind of data. >> >> Gary B >> >> On 08/01/2013 11:31 AM, XF wrote: >> > Did you understood how they collect data ? This is not clear for me...ISP >> > backdoor ? >> Optical tap on sub marine wire ? >> > >> > Le 1 août 2013 à 16:26, Georgi Guninski <[email protected]> a >> écrit : >> > >> >> it will be interesting to me what will remain of the nsa >> >> when the chinese comrades stop giving fresh money to the usa. >> >> >> >> Detroit news are not very pink. >> >> >> >> On Thu, Aug 01, 2013 at 11:20:27PM +1200, Hugh Davenport wrote: >> >>> meanwhile, in new zealand, prime minister suggests that we aren't >> >>> the slaves for nsa... >> >>> >> >>> On 2013-08-01 19:23, Georgi Guninski wrote: >> >>>> XKeyscore sees 'nearly EVERYTHING you do online >> >>>> >> >>>> >> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/07/31/prism_put_in_the_shade_by_leak_about_even_more_powerful_snoop_tool/ >> >>>> New NSA tool exposed: XKeyscore sees 'nearly EVERYTHING you do >> online' >> >>>> >> >>>> From the presentation: >> >>>> * Show me all the exploitable machines in country X >> >>>> >> >>>> * How do I find a cell of terrorust that has no >> >>>> connection to known strong-selectors >> >>>> **Anomalous events >> >>>> ***Someone who is using encryption >> >>>> >> >>>> _______________________________________________ >> >>>> Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. >> >>>> Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html >> >>>> Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ >> >>> >> >>> _______________________________________________ >> >>> Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. >> >>> Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html >> >>> Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. >> >> Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html >> >> Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. >> > Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html >> > Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. >> Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html >> Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/
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